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Analysis: Pope's `jihad' remarks a sign
AP via Yahoo ^ | September 15, 2006 | Brian Murphy

Posted on 09/15/2006 2:33:34 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican

Pope Benedict XVI's comments on religious radicalism are another sign of his intention to bring his voice into one of the world's most critical showdowns: Islam's internal struggles between moderates and extremists.

The remarks — tucked into an address at a German university where he formerly taught theology — were interpreted by many experts in interfaith relations as a signal that the Vatican is staking a new and more demanding stance for its dealings with the Muslim world.

Benedict, they say, appears to increasingly view the West's confrontation with radical Islam as a fateful moment in history that demands the Vatican's moral authority — just as his predecessor, John Paul II, reshaped the dimensions of the papacy by openly taking sides in the Cold War.

The risk for the Vatican is whether it will be perceived in the Muslim world as part of a broader Western cultural and political campaign against Islam.

"We have seen a hard line from this pope," said Ali El-Samman, president of the interfaith committee for Egypt's High Islamic Council. "It's a disappointment for many Muslims. But just because we are disappointed in a pope doesn't mean we are against all Christians."

The Vatican said Benedict did not intend the remarks to be offensive and sought to draw attention to the incompatibility of faith and violence.

The pope quoted from a book recounting a conversation between 14th-century Byzantine Christian Emperor Manuel Paleologos II and a Persian scholar on the truths of Christianity and Islam.

"The emperor comes to speak about the issue of jihad, holy war," the pope said. "He said, I quote, 'Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.'"

Benedict, who is supposed to visit Turkey this fall in his first trip to a Muslim nation, did not explicitly agree with the words nor did he repudiate them.

In the backlash, some of the more subtle — yet potentially far-reaching — references have been overshadowed.

The speech suggested deep dismay over the current conditions of Christians in the Middle East and the rest of the Muslim world, said John Voll, director of the Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding at Georgetown University in Washington.

"This reflects the intention of Pope Benedict to distinguish himself from his predecessor on his approach to interfaith dialogue," said Voll. "And by this, it means more reciprocity."

Voll said the pope may increasingly instruct Vatican envoys to stress issues of forced conversions of Christians and limits on Christian rights and worship.

"It's the next step after John Paul began opening doors" with historic pilgrimages to Muslim nations, including a visit to a Syrian mosque in 2001, Voll said.

As John Paul's chief watchdog on Roman Catholic doctrine, Benedict — then Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger — had little role in shaping the Vatican's contact with Islam and other faiths.

Some experts say Benedict's theological scholarship gives him an affinity for Orthodox churches and Judaism because of many shared traditions and holy texts, but leaves him less equipped to deal with Islam at a time when suspicions dominate relations between the West and Muslim world.

The speech, some say, shows the pontiff intends to carry on with his strong defense of the values of the Christian West rather than compromise for the sake of building bonds with Islam.

"They went to the speech expecting to meet Pope Benedict, but instead they met Professor Ratzinger," said the Rev. Khalil Samir, a Vatican envoy for interfaith links in Lebanon.

In July 2005, about two months after assuming the papacy, Benedict was asked if he considered Islam a religion of peace. He said: "Certainly there are elements that favor peace. It also has other elements."

The Rev. Robert Taft, a specialist in Islamic affairs at Rome's Pontifical Oriental Institute, said it was unlikely the pope miscalculated how some Muslims would receive his speech.

"The message he is sending is very, very clear," Taft said. "Violence in the name of faith is never acceptable in any religion and that (the pope) considers it his duty to challenge Islam and anyone else on this."


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1 posted on 09/15/2006 2:33:37 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

"openly taking sides in the Cold War' !!!!!

What 's "cold" about the continued deliberate murder of innocent non-combattants?

Let's guess. You think both side have their points of view don't you?

Please don't take it too personally if we wish you a nice life and bye bye. 'Kay?


2 posted on 09/15/2006 2:41:08 PM PDT by CBart95
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

There is no reason for the Vatican to "build bonds" with Islam. I'm guessing the pontiff knows a little bit more about the consequences of Islamic ambition than some secular news analysts.


3 posted on 09/15/2006 2:41:25 PM PDT by Gingersnap
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

Amazing that in 2006 saying that violence in the name of Islam is a BAD thing is somehow "controversial".


4 posted on 09/15/2006 2:41:38 PM PDT by boop (Now Greg, you know I don't like that WORD!)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

Benedict, who is supposed to visit Turkey this fall in his first trip to a Muslim nation, did not explicitly agree with the words nor did he repudiate them. "

Whatever he said, he said intentionally...about that we can be sure.

I'm sure hoping the Pope really ratchets it up from here. Here is pretty fearless, so twill be interesting to see where he goes.


5 posted on 09/15/2006 2:43:33 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

While I am not a Catholic and I have some doctrinal problems with the Catholic church, I must say, I really like this Pope. I hope he stands his ground.


6 posted on 09/15/2006 2:43:41 PM PDT by The Blitherer (You were given the choice between war & dishonor. You chose dishonor & you will have war. -Churchill)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

I really love this Pope.


A real man's Pope.


7 posted on 09/15/2006 2:44:08 PM PDT by TexanToTheCore (This space for hire...)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

The remarks — tucked into an address at a German university where he formerly taught theology — were interpreted by many experts in interfaith relations as a signal that the Vatican is staking a new and more demanding stance for its dealings with the Muslim world.

AMEN!!!!


8 posted on 09/15/2006 2:44:31 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

Thankfully the Pope spoke the truth about Mohammed.


9 posted on 09/15/2006 2:44:55 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

A sign that those protesting Benedict's remarks are unhinged.


10 posted on 09/15/2006 2:45:06 PM PDT by Rosemont
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican; STARWISE


I've bookmarked this --- it is so well written and accurate.

Thanks for the posting.


11 posted on 09/15/2006 2:45:57 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: CBart95

Did you run out of meds today, pal?


12 posted on 09/15/2006 2:49:26 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The moving finger writes and, having writ, moves on......)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

"Islam's internal struggles between moderates and extremists."

Hahaha... propaganda. There is not "internal" struggle!


13 posted on 09/15/2006 2:49:27 PM PDT by observer5 (It's not a War on Terror - it's a WAR ON STUPIDITY)
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To: Gingersnap

B-I-N-G-O


14 posted on 09/15/2006 2:49:34 PM PDT by stm (Katherine Harris for US Senate!)
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To: CBart95
Actually, the article mentions that his predecessor, John Paul II, openly took sides in the Cold War. Easy to mis-read the way it is framed.

Lando

15 posted on 09/15/2006 2:49:38 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln (For what cause would a liberal go to war? Revolutions don't count.)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

They can write all the left wing articles they want, if you read what the Pope said it was not offensive to any religion and was so logical and moral that it should be non-controversial. Do the authors of these articles think religious violence is a good thing?


16 posted on 09/15/2006 2:51:25 PM PDT by Williams
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To: TexanToTheCore
I think the world has just identified a real leader in this Pope. And he is one smart opponent for islam...he sees through its baloney and makes his moves accordingly.

I hope he beefs up security.

17 posted on 09/15/2006 2:52:11 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
Islam has to grow up. It has to decide whether it wants to remain in the 7th Century or join our time.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

18 posted on 09/15/2006 2:53:16 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: CBart95
Time to up the dosage on the Prozac.

Maybe you should read the whole article too.

19 posted on 09/15/2006 2:53:18 PM PDT by wireman
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

I guess it is totally accepted by the Western media, that all the Islamist leader speak in the most vile fasion about other religions, but dare anyone say anything critical of Islam...

Islam = vile, murderous pack of scum since Mohammed!


20 posted on 09/15/2006 2:53:34 PM PDT by observer5 (It's not a War on Terror - it's a WAR ON STUPIDITY)
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