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Pope's Muslim remarks raise security fears
The Australian ^ | September 16, 2006 | Philip Pullella in Vatican City

Posted on 09/15/2006 1:39:45 PM PDT by Nachum

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To: Nachum
THE Muslim world's scathing reaction to Pope Benedict's comments on Islam...

Journalism at its most idiotic. B16 did not comment on Islam he quoted a 14th century emperor as a historical source. There's a difference, you know...
21 posted on 09/15/2006 2:28:29 PM PDT by wolf78
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To: Nachum

Tey hysterical recation to any perceived insult is alarming. Sooner or later one of these recations will lead to violance of the sort that provokes reaction.


22 posted on 09/15/2006 2:28:40 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: TonyRo76

How DARE they call us Muslims violent! Lets kill something to show our anger!


23 posted on 09/15/2006 2:44:27 PM PDT by boop (Now Greg, you know I don't like that WORD!)
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24 posted on 09/15/2006 2:52:16 PM PDT by diverteach
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To: Nachum
Exactly. As I believe I stated on one of other threads this morning, Islam takes everything literally and is incapable of criticism and reflection. This prevents it from achieving spiritual growth. A religion that preaches violence and mass murder have divine sanction is not a religion that will attract a great number of adherents. The Pope's point is valid for all time. The question is not what the Pope said; the question is whether is Islam will change to prove it no longer desires to convert others through force. Indeed, the silence of Muslim clerics here shows us nothing has changed in 1400 years.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

25 posted on 09/15/2006 2:58:18 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Sadly, the IRA would be on the side of the Muzzies. They've been training them for years as it is, particularly the Palis in the area of bombmaking skills. The IRA are famed for their expertise in this area, and have been hired by ETA, the PLO and many others to provide tips. They're not Catholic; just good old Muzzie-siding Marxists.


26 posted on 09/15/2006 3:02:34 PM PDT by livius
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To: Nachum
...At least one Muslim leader, Syed Ahmed Bukhari, the chief cleric of New Delhi's historic Jama Masjid, India's largest mosque, extolled Muslims to "respond in a manner which forces the Pope to apologise". He did not elaborate...
27 posted on 09/15/2006 3:08:27 PM PDT by right-wingin_It
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To: Nachum
"...such as [Mohammed's] command to spread by the sword the faith he preached".

But this is absolutely true, as recently illustrated by the case of the two kidnapped reporters who were forced to give up their faith and convert to Islam, under pain of death. I can't help but think that the Pope must have been steamed by that. The Islamists should be lectured on this point; and I don't hear any apologies from them about it, either.

28 posted on 09/15/2006 3:12:40 PM PDT by BusterBear
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"One has to wonder why the Pope, who is normally so careful about what he says or writes, and has a reputation for extreme care, did not realise the reaction that this could cause," he added.

I guess this guy doesn't really get it. The Holy Father was following the example of Jesus, who went about his life saying the truth with no regard of what would happen to his life. Jesus did not care about the "reaction that this could cause" and neither does the Pope.

29 posted on 09/15/2006 3:29:59 PM PDT by SHOOT THE MOON bat ("I ain't got a dime but what i got is mine. I ain't rich but Lord I'm free." George Strait)
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To: BusterBear

I too had the feeling that this recent kidnapping and forced "conversion" had something to do with his remarks. He probably believes that if he just lets it slip by, it's going to become more common, and I think he's right. This was perhaps a preemptive strike. Not that the Muslims will get it or care, I'm afraid.


30 posted on 09/15/2006 3:35:54 PM PDT by livius
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To: SHOOT THE MOON bat

You may recall, that since the real Danish cartoons were not inflammatory enough, the Muzzie imans who complained about it invented two more.

You see, they assert they do the work of Allat, and are allowed to do any horrible thing in his defense. We serve a holy and virtuous G-d, and must only defend him in holy and virtuous ways.

In Africa, 100,000 people a year convert: From Islam to Christianity, despite the threats of criminal Muslim gangs.


31 posted on 09/15/2006 4:48:06 PM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy!" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: FFIGHTER

Well, aren't most Turks Mohammedans?


32 posted on 09/15/2006 5:54:18 PM PDT by Twinkie (Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.)
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To: Nachum

We are not violent and we will kill to prove it.


33 posted on 09/15/2006 5:55:44 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: livius

I just came across an interesting article on this:

http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/news/15528996.htm

Excerpts:
The speech suggested deep dismay over the current conditions of Christians in the Middle East and the rest of the Muslim world, said John Voll, director of the Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding at Georgetown University in Washington.

"This reflects the intention of Pope Benedict to distinguish himself from his predecessor on his approach to interfaith dialogue," said Voll. "And by this, it means more reciprocity."

Voll said the pope may increasingly instruct Vatican envoys to stress issues of forced conversions of Christians and limits on Christian rights and worship...

The Rev. Robert Taft, a specialist in Islamic affairs at Rome's Pontifical Oriental Institute, said it was unlikely the pope miscalculated how some Muslims would receive his speech.

"The message he is sending is very, very clear," Taft said. "Violence in the name of faith is never acceptable in any religion and that (the pope) considers it his duty to challenge Islam and anyone else on this."


34 posted on 09/15/2006 5:58:50 PM PDT by BusterBear
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To: the invisib1e hand

http://www.asianews.it/view.php?l=en&art=7224

FYI


35 posted on 09/15/2006 6:00:30 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Tá brón orainn. Níl Spáinnis againn anseo.)
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To: BusterBear

Yes, very interesting. I certainly don't think the Pope's words were any "accident."


36 posted on 09/15/2006 7:00:28 PM PDT by livius
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To: Nachum

37 posted on 09/15/2006 7:05:51 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Frank Sheed

great read, thank you. have you thought of posting it in the religion section of FR?


38 posted on 09/15/2006 7:09:00 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (I'm ready.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1702188/posts

Posted here by Dark Skies....


39 posted on 09/15/2006 7:23:01 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Tá brón orainn. Níl Spáinnis againn anseo.)
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To: Twinkie

Ali Agca - muzzie


40 posted on 09/15/2006 7:25:17 PM PDT by Nihil Obstat (viva il papa)
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