Posted on 09/13/2006 6:11:05 PM PDT by buccaneer81
Dont blame Islam for Talibans behavior Wednesday, September 13, 2006
Joseph Vogels Aug. 27 letter "Muslim fascism had a grip on Afghanistan" falls into the category of problematic, to say the least. If the Taliban are "Islamic fascists," deed, though the Christian leadethen the Nazis were "Christian fascists."
Inrs of Germany praised Adolf Hitler at the time, there was nothing Christian in the Nazis. They used their peoples faith and love of their country to lead them to hell. Similarly, there is nothing Islamic in forcing a particular government or religious practice on anyone, as the Taliban do. Islam, like Christianity, is about worshipping God and helping the poor and needy.
In far clearer terms than exist in the Bible, the Quran proclaims, "There is no compulsion in religion." In surah 109, God orders the faithful to say to those who reject faith: "I dont worship what you worship and you dont worship what I worship. To you your religion and to me mine." It commands the faithful to give charity and protect the rights of those in need, no matter what their religion. The legitimate leadership belongs to those who serve the people, not themselves.
Leaders in Islam will be answerable to God for how they treat those under them that they respect them and look out for their best interest.
The recent failures of our foreign policy should give people cause to go back and educate themselves better to go in a new direction rather than continuing to follow our lost leadership blindly.
Forum columnist Georgie Anne Geyer has a good grasp of the real world. President Bush and Vogel dont.
NORMA TARAZI
Worthington
Don't try it here fellas..my "government" can not stop my RIGHTS..even if they have fooled you in to thinking so.
Bush and his administration are saying the same thing. In fairness, it's the only feasible option for them.
Go tell them, not us.
Islam, like Christianity, is about worshipping God and helping the poor and needy.
Go tell the stingy Saudis, not us.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/005.qmt.html#005.032
005.032
SHAKIR: For this reason did We prescribe to the children of Israel that whoever slays a soul, unless it be for manslaughter or for mischief in the land, it is as though he slew all men; and whoever keeps it alive, it is as though he kept alive all men; and certainly Our messengers came to them with clear arguments, but even after that many of them certainly act extravagantly in the land.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/005.qmt.html#005.033
005.033 SHAKIR: The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement,
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/005.qmt.html#005.034
005.034 SHAKIR: Except those who repent before you have them in your power; so know that Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
The religion of peace my eye.
He knows nothing of Islam, but he will. When the boot of Islam is on his neck.
Nazis forced people to worship the Fuhrer and the Fatherland, not Christ.
Its good that you can write this kind of stuff, MS Tarizi, but what counts is the senior male clerics of Islam to speak publicly about their love for their brother and sisters out side Islam. All we have seen out of them a mass case of lock jaw.
By the way, the next piece you write, just skip sending it though your proof-writers and see if you write another piece next week.
No, the Nazis were neo-pagan fascists--Franco and his crew were Christian fascists. And Tojo and his crew were Shintoist fascists. And, since they adopted a market economy, the Chicoms are atheist fascists. And the Burmese junta are Buddhist fascists.
Fascists come in all religious stripes, and the offense that Muslims take at having their own fascists, who like the Meiji-era Japanese fascists openly profess and identity between their politics an their religion, called "Islamic fascists" is unseemly and suggestive of fascist sympathies in those who take offense.
The cry would come from Christian ministers, laymen and casual believers from all denominations.
So far, besides their whining about their own 'persecution'.... their silence has been deafening!
No muslim is a victim in this war..their silence condemns them.
Lying to infidels is ENCOURAGED in the Koran, especially if it leads to benefits for a muslim or islam in general.
Ah...of course! Surah 109! That good ole "friendly" and "Peaceful" part of the Qu'ran! Too bad the rest of it is completely hate-filled! LOL!!
For example:
Quran:8:39 Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.
Quran:47:4 When you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in battle (fighting Jihad in Allahs Cause), smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them. At length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind them firmly, making (them) captives. Thereafter either generosity or ransom (them based upon what benefits Islam) until the war lays down its burdens. Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam.
Quran:2:193 Fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief) and religion is only for Allah. But if they cease/desist, let there be no hostility except against infidel disbelievers.
Quran:4:94 Believers, when you go abroad to fight wars in Allahs Cause, investigate carefully, and say not to anyone who greets you: You are not a believer! Coveting the chance profits of this life (so that you may despoil him). With Allah are plenteous spoils and booty.
NAZI's had nothing to do with Christ, unlike Taliban and other Islamic terrorist which does everything in the name of Allah. Just another Christ hating liar.
When there is not ONE Islamic cleric preaching terrorism to his followers-
When there is not ONE WORD in the Koran about domination, subjugation and violence toward non-Muslims-
THEN I will not blame the 'religion'.
When 'Christian' Nazis terrorized the world, the Catholic church and other Christian churches were not encouraging them from their pulpits. Official sanction by clerics is a BIG difference.
Until then- you know a belief system by what kind of people it produces. Islam, for centuries, has produced maniacs,bloodthirsty barbarians,women haters and paranoid schizophrenics with dreams of world domination.
The 9-11 murderers were not produced by Mormonism, or the B'Hai, they came from Islam.
If it continually spews out sewerage- its a sewer.
"Dont Blame Islam For Talibans Behavior "
Well, then, like, dude...why are all the fighters that flood into
Afghanistan to assist the Taliban, like, uh, Muslims?
Even a stoner could flank this Islamic apologist.
Okay.On no.
Don't blame Islam!
Perhaps we should blame the Taliban for Islam's behavior.
"Growing up in California, Norma Tarazi spent the early years of her life mired in a culture of miniskirts and hot pants, where many considered beauty and bare skin as worthy goals. So her conversion to Islam as an adult -- after which she adopted the style of dress known as hijab that covers much of the body and hair -- amounted to no small change in lifestyle..."
http://www.zawaj.com/articles/liberation_ohio.html
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