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High-anxiety grape season (Late crops, so-so yields and possibility of farmworker shortage)
THE PRESS DEMOCRAT ^ | September 13, 2006 | TIM TESCONI

Posted on 09/13/2006 3:36:14 PM PDT by calcowgirl

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To: garandgal; Reaganwuzthebest
Those would be private jets they flew, right?
I hear ya on the rest.

I think RWTB said it pretty well in the post above:

... We can no longer afford their cheap labor and the more they they whine the more attention they draw to the enormous damage illegal immigration is doing to this country

21 posted on 09/13/2006 6:02:44 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Oh thank you sweet cowgirl.......and not "plain wrap" either : )


22 posted on 09/13/2006 6:06:56 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: seasoned traditionalist

"AM I MISSING SOMETHING HERE?????"

Uh, no, you missed nothing!

B U M P


23 posted on 09/13/2006 6:09:36 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: calcowgirl

You should hear them in upstate NY. For years they did fine without illegals now all of a sudden they realized how beneficial that cheap labor is to their bottom line and can't live without it. They've even got Hillary shilling for them, it's pathetic. I'd rather there be no farms then to see this part of the country go the way of California and the rest of the border states.


24 posted on 09/13/2006 6:11:48 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: TWOJAKES
Think these grape farmers would spring for paying for the operating cost of the local hospital where the farmers illegal aliens and the illegal children get their medical care?

There's not one mention by Mr. Pasternak or anyone else pushing "comprehensive reform" as to who pays the social costs for all their cheap labor. That means it's us.

28 posted on 09/13/2006 6:46:38 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: stephenjohnbanker

LOL.

I tried to find a good image for "Puffs Plus" (those are REALLY good!) instead of plain old Kleenex.

Only the best for a fellow conservative!


29 posted on 09/13/2006 7:00:06 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Thouest melt my heart. Great tagline, by the way! I like P J


30 posted on 09/13/2006 7:04:44 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Thanks!


31 posted on 09/13/2006 7:07:51 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: quantim
Ping!

BTW: Low yields are good for the quality of the wine. Think of it as "thinning the herd."

33 posted on 09/13/2006 7:29:00 PM PDT by Clemenza (Dave? Dave?)
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To: Clemenza; NautiNurse; Amerigomag; andrew2527; AnAmericanMother; A Jovial Cad; Awgie; babaloo; ...
Click to be +/- on this low volume wine ping list.

Oenology news/labor ping.

34 posted on 09/13/2006 7:43:06 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: gaussia
I wonder why Australian wine tends to be lower in price here in California than wine produced in California

Classic supply and demand, commensurate on quality.  You can easily spend hundreds of $$ on a world-class Australian bottle of wine if you so desired.

35 posted on 09/13/2006 7:55:20 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: quantim

So would you say that the high-quality, highly-demanded wines of California are capable of bringing in enough $$ for the wine producers to employ grape harvesters who are in the country legally?


36 posted on 09/13/2006 8:32:28 PM PDT by gaussia
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To: gaussia

Rather certain of that, we're not talking large quantities.

Boutique, expensive wines ought not be compared to mass agriculture.


37 posted on 09/13/2006 9:14:33 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: calcowgirl

>"We bought a machine. There is a way, and we will get the grapes in," said Rich Schaefers, general manager of the Mendocino Vineyard Co.

This would seem to imply that cheap labor in the past has slowed the introduction of labor-multiplying machinery.


38 posted on 09/13/2006 9:56:30 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: calcowgirl

There are plenty of illegals in Ventura County boys...although they have set a $15/hour minimum wage for themselves, 8 hour minimum, plus two meals


39 posted on 09/13/2006 10:51:46 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: kaktuskid

The grapes in our store are CA during the season, and Chilean out of season. The CA growers have bought up a lot of the Chilean companies.


40 posted on 09/13/2006 10:52:55 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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