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Rush Limbaugh Live Thread Wednesday 09-13-2006
RushLimbaugh.com ^ | 09-13-06

Posted on 09/13/2006 9:00:08 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

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The enemy within -- and it's not who you think (David Warren nails Islamofascism's 5th column)

Ottawa Citizen - Canada ^ | September 13, 2006 | David Warren

Posted on 09/13/2006 10:43:18 AM CDT by GMMAC

The enemy within -- and it's not who you think

Ottawa Citizen September 13, 2006

COMMENTARY: DAVID WARREN

Listening to President Bush speak, on Monday's anniversary of 9/11, after a day of distastefully sentimental memorials, my question was not what have we achieved in the last five years, but rather, what have we learned? Bush and Blair -- the captain and vice-captain of Team West in the war against "the terrorists" so far -- are both now in the twilight of their political careers. Both have recently broken with habitual discretion, and made attempts to name the enemy. This has, if anything, added to their unpopularity, for when they mention that the enemy presents himself as Islamic, there are shrill cries not only from radical Muslims, but across the spectrum of the Left in the West.

Mr Bush, much the less eloquent of the two, has now retreated from his use of the term "Islamofascist" -- which as I said in a previous column, is a fairer label than "Islamist" for an enemy that spreads a palampore of traditional Islam, over a stuffing from the Western-bred totalitarian ideologies of the 20th century. As I wrote Aug. 27, from Ahmadinejad to Zawahiri, we hear rhetoric that uses an Islamic vocabulary and crude grammar, but animated with a syntax that owes more to Hitler, Stalin, and Mao, than to the Prophet and his traditional interpreters. The term is thus meant to suggest a skewed Islam, an Islam "adapted to our age" by psychopathic men, whose own Islamic learning is purposefully politicized, and aggressively de-spiritualized. Since the alternative would be to say that Ahmadinejad, Zawahiri, et al. do speak legitimately for Islam, I don't see why anyone should object to the term "Islamofascist".

Mr Blair gave an interview worth reading to the Israeli daily, Haaretz, published Monday. The editors present characterized it as "sombre". The British prime minister was still going through the motions of advocating the "peace process", and the "two-state solution" for Israel and Palestine, without (according to me) any real conviction that it could work. It is just something Western politicians do to please the figurative "Arab street", and it does not please anyone, any more. With much more conviction, he said leaders throughout the West have grasped that we are in a truly "global struggle", for which the people of the West are not prepared. The politicians have failed to explain to us how much is at stake, and how much will be lost if we are not resolute in defence of Western values.

For all its uncharacteristic awkwardness, Mr Blair's answer to a question about British home-grown terrorists donged the bell:

"It's not necessarily what have we done wrong, because part of the problem of what you have in Western opinion is that Western opinion always wants to believe that it's our fault and these people want to have a sort of, you know, grievance culture that they visit upon us and say it's our fault. And so we have a young British-born man of Pakistani origin sitting in front of a television screen saying I will go and kill innocent people because of the oppression of Muslims, when he has been brought up in a country that has given him complete religious freedom and full democratic rights and actually a very good job and standard of living. Now, that warped mind has grown out of a global movement based on a perversion of Islam which we have to confront, and we have to confront it globally."

I frankly admire both Bush and Blair, as courageous politicians, with open minds, doing their best within the limits of what is politically possible in their respective spheres. They are both towering figures, in comparison to the little men who oppose them. We won't know what trouble is, until the little men replace them.

I continue optimistic about what can be done, should we summon the will to do it. I have written repeatedly that a robust and unified Western response to "Islamofascism" could fling it quickly onto the trash-heap of history, to join Nasserism and Baathism and other earlier manifestations of Arab nationalism and socialism. Smack it hard, without apology.

My pessimism is founded in the fear that this robust and unified response cannot be mobilized. We have a huge fifth column in the West, and it is not the Muslim immigrants. They become radicalized only because our "victim culture" encourages them to nurture their grievances. Yet most, despite temptation, remain good, decent people, doing their share of the West's work.

Our real enemy is within us, in the immense constituency of the half-educated narcissists pouring from our universities each year -- that glib, smug, liberal, and defeatist "victim culture" itself, that inhabits the academy, our media, our legal establishment, the bureaucratic class. The opinion leaders of our society, who live almost entirely off the avails of taxation, make their livelihoods biting the hands that feed them, and undermining the moral order on which our solidarity depends.


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To: AliVeritas

Typical Democrat slime machine. THEY did what they accused Bush of doing!


601 posted on 09/13/2006 11:36:19 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Rove made me do it!)
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What congressman is this women talking about?


602 posted on 09/13/2006 11:36:38 AM PDT by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE, FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM !")
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To: mnehrling

My favorite sight for translations of the Koran:

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/


603 posted on 09/13/2006 11:36:53 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: TexasPatriot8

Warning!

ironic, because that means she's less ugly on the outside then the inside.

That's gotta be hard to do!

(that poor child...)

604 posted on 09/13/2006 11:37:07 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Nothing says security like the smell of gunpowder.)
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To: American Quilter

God Bless Her! To bad she didn't go Bronx on him. I want the identity of the guy that grabbed her arm.


605 posted on 09/13/2006 11:37:09 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Libs, your choice... the .380 or Glock? This is not a game, and I have bail money.)
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To: American Quilter

Obviously the Congressman's stoodge aide need to be fired for his conduct here.


606 posted on 09/13/2006 11:37:21 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Rove made me do it!)
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To: AliVeritas

I would have bashed his head in.


607 posted on 09/13/2006 11:37:40 AM PDT by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE, FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM !")
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To: angcat

Moran (aka Moron), my congressman, in N. VA.


609 posted on 09/13/2006 11:37:57 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: Pyro7480

Here.

Work? What's that? I seem to remember that from somewhere in my past.


610 posted on 09/13/2006 11:38:12 AM PDT by Roccus (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror. (Stolen from FReeper Stallone))
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To: AliVeritas
This will be "the" call for Rush's show today. She is awesome, also shows the rats for what they are political hacks and traitors.
611 posted on 09/13/2006 11:38:23 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: American Quilter
the Quran directs Muslims to offer their intended targets a chance to convert to Islam. Anyone who refuses becomes a legitimate target for forcible conversion or death.

I thought about this when President Bush issued his call for unity in our WOT. I fantacized it as his call to the dems to convert, failing which they would be bombed. LOL

612 posted on 09/13/2006 11:38:23 AM PDT by Bahbah (Shalit, Goldwasser and Regev, we are praying for you)
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To: AliVeritas

Congresscritters always have flunkies around them at these things. Obviously from the comments it was one of his stoodges. People should be melting this Congressman's phone lines demanding an apology from him and his staff.


613 posted on 09/13/2006 11:39:12 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Rove made me do it!)
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To: Mad Dash

I don't think the definition of "dysfunctional" really came into its own until the moderan social and fiscal liberal hit the political stage in the 80s. It's a disease. A chemical imballance. And no rehab or pills work to cure it. Poor Scarecrows. :) "If they only..."


614 posted on 09/13/2006 11:39:12 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: Roccus

Why do people yell at you?


615 posted on 09/13/2006 11:39:20 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: AliVeritas

Maybe she should consider helping the NY GOP campaign.


616 posted on 09/13/2006 11:39:27 AM PDT by ct_libertarian ("Who Is John Galt?" Ayn Rand)
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To: ct_libertarian
Whoops
NY VA
617 posted on 09/13/2006 11:40:35 AM PDT by ct_libertarian ("Who Is John Galt?" Ayn Rand)
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To: Roccus

They are no longer the kook fringe--
they are the mainstream


618 posted on 09/13/2006 11:42:05 AM PDT by acsrp38 (Found: WMD Saddam didn't have before he didn't have them)
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To: Pyro7480

I'm a fisherman. Have been since I was 4yrs old. I recognize bait when I see it.


619 posted on 09/13/2006 11:42:10 AM PDT by Roccus (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror. (Stolen from FReeper Stallone))
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To: ct_libertarian
Part of the "FRINGE"...
620 posted on 09/13/2006 11:42:31 AM PDT by FaithintheRight (Our forefathers knew what they were doing...do we?)
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