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Rush Limbaugh Live Thread Wednesday 09-13-2006
RushLimbaugh.com ^ | 09-13-06

Posted on 09/13/2006 9:00:08 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

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The enemy within -- and it's not who you think (David Warren nails Islamofascism's 5th column)

Ottawa Citizen - Canada ^ | September 13, 2006 | David Warren

Posted on 09/13/2006 10:43:18 AM CDT by GMMAC

The enemy within -- and it's not who you think

Ottawa Citizen September 13, 2006

COMMENTARY: DAVID WARREN

Listening to President Bush speak, on Monday's anniversary of 9/11, after a day of distastefully sentimental memorials, my question was not what have we achieved in the last five years, but rather, what have we learned? Bush and Blair -- the captain and vice-captain of Team West in the war against "the terrorists" so far -- are both now in the twilight of their political careers. Both have recently broken with habitual discretion, and made attempts to name the enemy. This has, if anything, added to their unpopularity, for when they mention that the enemy presents himself as Islamic, there are shrill cries not only from radical Muslims, but across the spectrum of the Left in the West.

Mr Bush, much the less eloquent of the two, has now retreated from his use of the term "Islamofascist" -- which as I said in a previous column, is a fairer label than "Islamist" for an enemy that spreads a palampore of traditional Islam, over a stuffing from the Western-bred totalitarian ideologies of the 20th century. As I wrote Aug. 27, from Ahmadinejad to Zawahiri, we hear rhetoric that uses an Islamic vocabulary and crude grammar, but animated with a syntax that owes more to Hitler, Stalin, and Mao, than to the Prophet and his traditional interpreters. The term is thus meant to suggest a skewed Islam, an Islam "adapted to our age" by psychopathic men, whose own Islamic learning is purposefully politicized, and aggressively de-spiritualized. Since the alternative would be to say that Ahmadinejad, Zawahiri, et al. do speak legitimately for Islam, I don't see why anyone should object to the term "Islamofascist".

Mr Blair gave an interview worth reading to the Israeli daily, Haaretz, published Monday. The editors present characterized it as "sombre". The British prime minister was still going through the motions of advocating the "peace process", and the "two-state solution" for Israel and Palestine, without (according to me) any real conviction that it could work. It is just something Western politicians do to please the figurative "Arab street", and it does not please anyone, any more. With much more conviction, he said leaders throughout the West have grasped that we are in a truly "global struggle", for which the people of the West are not prepared. The politicians have failed to explain to us how much is at stake, and how much will be lost if we are not resolute in defence of Western values.

For all its uncharacteristic awkwardness, Mr Blair's answer to a question about British home-grown terrorists donged the bell:

"It's not necessarily what have we done wrong, because part of the problem of what you have in Western opinion is that Western opinion always wants to believe that it's our fault and these people want to have a sort of, you know, grievance culture that they visit upon us and say it's our fault. And so we have a young British-born man of Pakistani origin sitting in front of a television screen saying I will go and kill innocent people because of the oppression of Muslims, when he has been brought up in a country that has given him complete religious freedom and full democratic rights and actually a very good job and standard of living. Now, that warped mind has grown out of a global movement based on a perversion of Islam which we have to confront, and we have to confront it globally."

I frankly admire both Bush and Blair, as courageous politicians, with open minds, doing their best within the limits of what is politically possible in their respective spheres. They are both towering figures, in comparison to the little men who oppose them. We won't know what trouble is, until the little men replace them.

I continue optimistic about what can be done, should we summon the will to do it. I have written repeatedly that a robust and unified Western response to "Islamofascism" could fling it quickly onto the trash-heap of history, to join Nasserism and Baathism and other earlier manifestations of Arab nationalism and socialism. Smack it hard, without apology.

My pessimism is founded in the fear that this robust and unified response cannot be mobilized. We have a huge fifth column in the West, and it is not the Muslim immigrants. They become radicalized only because our "victim culture" encourages them to nurture their grievances. Yet most, despite temptation, remain good, decent people, doing their share of the West's work.

Our real enemy is within us, in the immense constituency of the half-educated narcissists pouring from our universities each year -- that glib, smug, liberal, and defeatist "victim culture" itself, that inhabits the academy, our media, our legal establishment, the bureaucratic class. The opinion leaders of our society, who live almost entirely off the avails of taxation, make their livelihoods biting the hands that feed them, and undermining the moral order on which our solidarity depends.


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To: Roccus

Speaking of Billions, in 1998, it was figured that if Bill Gates had a habit of accidentally dropping money, it would not be worth it for him to take the time to pick up a $100 bill.


561 posted on 09/13/2006 11:26:41 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Nothing says security like the smell of gunpowder.)
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To: Sensei Ern

Well, our government is spending about 2,700 billion a year.

No one can grasp those kind of numbers.


562 posted on 09/13/2006 11:26:42 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: AliVeritas

563 posted on 09/13/2006 11:26:43 AM PDT by FaithintheRight (Our forefathers knew what they were doing...do we?)
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To: Sensei Ern

Bless you for your consideration. That woman shouldn't even be called a woman. She's a hate filled radical man hating troglodyte. There's more hate in her then in some terrorists truth be told, and she accuses practicing Christians who don't commit acts of terror of being just as bad as the Islamo-Fascists. Most of the time she controls her hate and venom and keeps it under her sizable and ugly surface. That's ironic, because that means she's less ugly on the outside then the inside. Yeouch.


564 posted on 09/13/2006 11:27:01 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Liberty must be defended, so the children of those who fell, can understand its value. Never forget.)
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To: All

I'm listening online. Is anyone else having problems with the streaming going in and out? I've been on wgst and wabc.


565 posted on 09/13/2006 11:27:19 AM PDT by TrishaSC
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To: American Quilter

Oh come on lady. This is not working. That was a non-explanation about why we don't hear any condemnation. Poor lady, she's getting dirty looks.


566 posted on 09/13/2006 11:27:21 AM PDT by Bahbah (Shalit, Goldwasser and Regev, we are praying for you)
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To: Sensei Ern

I like that!


567 posted on 09/13/2006 11:27:42 AM PDT by Roccus (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror. (Stolen from FReeper Stallone))
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To: Roccus

Peaceful book!?? LOL!!!! My @$$


568 posted on 09/13/2006 11:28:22 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: Mad Dash

Thank you. She just said she would be considered an infidel within her own religion.

Can you say... maybe she should rethink it then?
If you can't speak against it... you're with it honey.
Sorry, buh bye!

Has her imam issued a fatwa against terrorists? I don't think so.


569 posted on 09/13/2006 11:28:24 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Libs, your choice... the .380 or Glock? This is not a game, and I have bail money.)
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To: TrishaSC

Try WFLA in Orlando. They're very good.


570 posted on 09/13/2006 11:28:29 AM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: AliVeritas

I would say MOST terrorists are muslim. The IRA is where many muslims got the idea of making bombs. They even got some training from them, if I remember correctly.


571 posted on 09/13/2006 11:28:35 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Nothing says security like the smell of gunpowder.)
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To: American Quilter

That is my understanding AQ...Islam is a religion of conquest by the sword. If people are non believers, they are not innocent. Matter of fact, they aren't even human.


572 posted on 09/13/2006 11:28:40 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Bzzt! Wrong answer caller. The Koran certainly does call for the killing of infidels. See Sure 9:5 aka "The Verse of The Sword".


573 posted on 09/13/2006 11:28:47 AM PDT by PogySailor (Media bias? What media bias?)
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To: All

HAS HER IMAM ISSUED A FATWA AGAINST TERRORISM? HAVE ANY IN THIS COUNTRY?


574 posted on 09/13/2006 11:29:06 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Libs, your choice... the .380 or Glock? This is not a game, and I have bail money.)
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To: Roccus

Couldn't resist Roc! The devil made me do it.


575 posted on 09/13/2006 11:29:34 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun

It all depends on the definition of "innocent."


576 posted on 09/13/2006 11:29:36 AM PDT by Bahbah (Shalit, Goldwasser and Regev, we are praying for you)
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To: Bahbah

Exactly!


577 posted on 09/13/2006 11:30:08 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: AliVeritas
Thank you. She just said she would be considered an infidel within her own religion.

islamofacists seldom see themselves even in their own comments.

578 posted on 09/13/2006 11:30:21 AM PDT by Mad Dash
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To: American Quilter

Next time he should ask what Muhammad's last words were.


579 posted on 09/13/2006 11:30:43 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Libs, your choice... the .380 or Glock? This is not a game, and I have bail money.)
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To: PogySailor
See Sure 9:5 aka "The Verse of The Sword".

bookmark. Now where's the verse that it's OK to lie to us?

580 posted on 09/13/2006 11:31:04 AM PDT by AmericaUnite
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