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Rush Limbaugh Live Thread Wednesday 09-13-2006
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Posted on 09/13/2006 9:00:08 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

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The enemy within -- and it's not who you think (David Warren nails Islamofascism's 5th column)

Ottawa Citizen - Canada ^ | September 13, 2006 | David Warren

Posted on 09/13/2006 10:43:18 AM CDT by GMMAC

The enemy within -- and it's not who you think

Ottawa Citizen September 13, 2006

COMMENTARY: DAVID WARREN

Listening to President Bush speak, on Monday's anniversary of 9/11, after a day of distastefully sentimental memorials, my question was not what have we achieved in the last five years, but rather, what have we learned? Bush and Blair -- the captain and vice-captain of Team West in the war against "the terrorists" so far -- are both now in the twilight of their political careers. Both have recently broken with habitual discretion, and made attempts to name the enemy. This has, if anything, added to their unpopularity, for when they mention that the enemy presents himself as Islamic, there are shrill cries not only from radical Muslims, but across the spectrum of the Left in the West.

Mr Bush, much the less eloquent of the two, has now retreated from his use of the term "Islamofascist" -- which as I said in a previous column, is a fairer label than "Islamist" for an enemy that spreads a palampore of traditional Islam, over a stuffing from the Western-bred totalitarian ideologies of the 20th century. As I wrote Aug. 27, from Ahmadinejad to Zawahiri, we hear rhetoric that uses an Islamic vocabulary and crude grammar, but animated with a syntax that owes more to Hitler, Stalin, and Mao, than to the Prophet and his traditional interpreters. The term is thus meant to suggest a skewed Islam, an Islam "adapted to our age" by psychopathic men, whose own Islamic learning is purposefully politicized, and aggressively de-spiritualized. Since the alternative would be to say that Ahmadinejad, Zawahiri, et al. do speak legitimately for Islam, I don't see why anyone should object to the term "Islamofascist".

Mr Blair gave an interview worth reading to the Israeli daily, Haaretz, published Monday. The editors present characterized it as "sombre". The British prime minister was still going through the motions of advocating the "peace process", and the "two-state solution" for Israel and Palestine, without (according to me) any real conviction that it could work. It is just something Western politicians do to please the figurative "Arab street", and it does not please anyone, any more. With much more conviction, he said leaders throughout the West have grasped that we are in a truly "global struggle", for which the people of the West are not prepared. The politicians have failed to explain to us how much is at stake, and how much will be lost if we are not resolute in defence of Western values.

For all its uncharacteristic awkwardness, Mr Blair's answer to a question about British home-grown terrorists donged the bell:

"It's not necessarily what have we done wrong, because part of the problem of what you have in Western opinion is that Western opinion always wants to believe that it's our fault and these people want to have a sort of, you know, grievance culture that they visit upon us and say it's our fault. And so we have a young British-born man of Pakistani origin sitting in front of a television screen saying I will go and kill innocent people because of the oppression of Muslims, when he has been brought up in a country that has given him complete religious freedom and full democratic rights and actually a very good job and standard of living. Now, that warped mind has grown out of a global movement based on a perversion of Islam which we have to confront, and we have to confront it globally."

I frankly admire both Bush and Blair, as courageous politicians, with open minds, doing their best within the limits of what is politically possible in their respective spheres. They are both towering figures, in comparison to the little men who oppose them. We won't know what trouble is, until the little men replace them.

I continue optimistic about what can be done, should we summon the will to do it. I have written repeatedly that a robust and unified Western response to "Islamofascism" could fling it quickly onto the trash-heap of history, to join Nasserism and Baathism and other earlier manifestations of Arab nationalism and socialism. Smack it hard, without apology.

My pessimism is founded in the fear that this robust and unified response cannot be mobilized. We have a huge fifth column in the West, and it is not the Muslim immigrants. They become radicalized only because our "victim culture" encourages them to nurture their grievances. Yet most, despite temptation, remain good, decent people, doing their share of the West's work.

Our real enemy is within us, in the immense constituency of the half-educated narcissists pouring from our universities each year -- that glib, smug, liberal, and defeatist "victim culture" itself, that inhabits the academy, our media, our legal establishment, the bureaucratic class. The opinion leaders of our society, who live almost entirely off the avails of taxation, make their livelihoods biting the hands that feed them, and undermining the moral order on which our solidarity depends.


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To: JerseyDvl

just make the check out to eeevil conservtive....

I'll make sure it goes to a good cause...

;-)


301 posted on 09/13/2006 10:12:41 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (JOHN BOLTON FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Murtha is drawing up a resolution to get Rummy to resign. I wanna hit that SOB.

Let him do it, support it, speak as much about it to as wide an audience as possible. It will fail. Just more insane Dem behavior for the voters to contemplate in November.

302 posted on 09/13/2006 10:12:52 AM PDT by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Forth Century)
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To: SE Mom
I would wait before launching on this, Hot Air is not the most credible source. It is reporting second hand on a supposed CNN story. I would wait until someone credible like Laura or Sean or Mark talk about it before you take it too seriously. The other think to keep in mind.

How come there is all this focus on minority Republican alternatives? Chances are IF real, these will never see the light of day.

So it looks pretty transparently this is an attempt to divert Republican momentum by the Democrat Noise machine.

303 posted on 09/13/2006 10:13:00 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? Samurai? Fascists?)
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To: American Quilter

Eh, they'll just rip off the boy scouts again or whatever it was they did the last time they were going bankrupt.


304 posted on 09/13/2006 10:13:18 AM PDT by ct_libertarian ("Who Is John Galt?" Ayn Rand)
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To: Fudd Fan
I would wait before launching on this, Hot Air is not the most credible source. It is reporting second hand on a supposed CNN story. I would wait until someone credible like Laura or Sean or Mark talk about it before you take it too seriously. The other think to keep in mind.

How come there is all this focus on minority Republican alternatives? Chances are IF real, these will never see the light of day.

So it looks pretty transparently this is an attempt to divert Republican momentum by the Democrat Noise machine.

305 posted on 09/13/2006 10:13:25 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? Samurai? Fascists?)
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To: A.Hun

We let the kids ride the big dogs all the time. You should see Clint go bare back on the Poms!


306 posted on 09/13/2006 10:13:30 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Nothing says security like the smell of gunpowder.)
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To: Roccus

Ok. I'll settle down. A little.

Except for this- THAT plan...has been ENDORSED by the GOP Intel and Judiciary charimen...

Doesn't that seem a little more than an election year stunt?


307 posted on 09/13/2006 10:13:36 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-prayers for the kidnapped Israeli Soldiers)
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To: A.Hun

They were bread to hunt wolves.


308 posted on 09/13/2006 10:13:36 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (If you don't love Jesus, you can go to hell.)
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To: American Quilter

Dang, gas is still $2.83 in Colorado Springs. Why are we so far above the national average? Cost of living here is normally about average for the country.


309 posted on 09/13/2006 10:14:16 AM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: A.Hun

Are they bigger than English mastiffs? My neighbor has one of those. You wouldn't believe some of the stuff I've shoveled off my lawn!


310 posted on 09/13/2006 10:14:21 AM PDT by Roccus (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror. (Stolen from FReeper Stallone))
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To: Sensei Ern
You should see Clint go bare back on the Poms!

Now there's an image...

311 posted on 09/13/2006 10:15:03 AM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Dancing with poms.


312 posted on 09/13/2006 10:15:20 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: MNJohnnie

See # 284...with the CNN link to the story.


313 posted on 09/13/2006 10:16:01 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-prayers for the kidnapped Israeli Soldiers)
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To: American Quilter
Pom Hunting...Pull!


314 posted on 09/13/2006 10:16:08 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (If you don't love Jesus, you can go to hell.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Dancing with poms.

LOL!

315 posted on 09/13/2006 10:16:15 AM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: SE Mom

Intel is Sphincter, right? Nothing new there. I can't think of Judiciary.


316 posted on 09/13/2006 10:16:52 AM PDT by Roccus (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror. (Stolen from FReeper Stallone))
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To: SE Mom
Could we ONE time actually find out the facts rather then launching the second our political enemies pull a PR stunt?

Here comes the Port Deals ALL over. Democrat Election year PR stunt and the Conservative fall hook line and sinker for it instead of finding out the facts.

317 posted on 09/13/2006 10:17:19 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? Samurai? Fascists?)
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To: MNJohnnie
morning Johnnie....

That's exactly what it is....

The Left has gone into nervous breakdown mode. I made the mistake of flipping onto CNN this am...the headlines for the noon (eastern) show were:

1) Anna Nicole Smith's son

2) John Murtha about to deliver a "report" on military readiness....(that was pretty funny and provoked a chuckle)

3) And, finally, an upcoming interview with Jane Fonda and Gloria Steinem about their new network aimed at the "female audience"...

318 posted on 09/13/2006 10:17:36 AM PDT by sofaman ("We will not tire. We will not falter. And we will not fail." Thank You, Mr President.)
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To: sono

http://www.freerepublic.com/~ahun/index?U=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freerepublic.com%2Ffocus%2Fmy%2F


319 posted on 09/13/2006 10:17:49 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: American Quilter

I'm so glad Mfume was defeated. He's bad for America.


320 posted on 09/13/2006 10:17:55 AM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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