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And don't forget to tip the wait staff: Servers fight, organize for proper tipping (Waiter Rage)
WTNH ^ | September 12, 2006 | AP

Posted on 09/13/2006 8:06:21 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough

After finishing dinner at a Connecticut restaurant, two diners got more than a butter mint when a waiter, apparently miffed by a $2 to $3 tip left on a $50 check, attacked them with a knife. They only suffered minor injuries, but no doubt tipped much better after that.

While violent cases of waiter rage are rare, the 1989 incident points to waiters' sticky reliance on tips for income. In some states, restaurants are only legally required to pay as little as $2 or $3 an hour. So if a server earns $30 in tips on a bad night, he could feasibly walk out having earned less than minimum wage after tipping out the bartender and busboys (a common practice in most restaurants).

To level the playing field, waiters are taking action. Some are resorting to guerrilla tactics -- it's not uncommon for waiters to personally confront stingy tippers, or to blog about them on sites such as WaiterRant.Net.

One former waiter, Yakup Ulutas, is proposing restaurants change the system. Ulutas, a 36 year-old restaurant manager in Atlanta, founded a nonprofit organization, Fairtip.org, to persuade restaurants to implement an automatic 20 percent service fee on every check. He estimates 2,500 waiters have joined.

You'd be hard-pressed to find a server who wouldn't love to see his or her employer slap an automatic tip on to every check. But wouldn't it make more sense for restaurants to hike prices by 20 percent and raise workers' salaries?

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While public humiliation may be a low blow, it's still preferable to stabbing stingy tippers.

(Excerpt) Read more at wtnh.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Connecticut; US: New York
KEYWORDS: foodservice; restaurant; tipping; waiterrage
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They only suffered minor injuries, but no doubt tipped much better after that.

Pardon me?

1 posted on 09/13/2006 8:06:23 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: LurkedLongEnough

I always tip very well for good service, but I leave no tip for bad service. If the bad waiters stop getting tips, they will move on to an occupation that they are better suited for and will enjoy more.


2 posted on 09/13/2006 8:09:29 AM PDT by CSM ("The fatter we get as a country the more concerned we get about smoking" - ichabod1)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Brilliant! That's a perfect way to kill all sorts of restaurants. Forced tipping...classic. Must be from the same people that brought CA $8 an hour for min. wage.


3 posted on 09/13/2006 8:09:48 AM PDT by ECM (Government is a make-work program for lawyers.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

I tip according to services, not the value of the meal alone.


4 posted on 09/13/2006 8:10:03 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: LurkedLongEnough
to persuade restaurants to implement an automatic 20 percent service fee on every check.

20 percent? You better be hustling your butt off or have very nice cleavage to get a 20% tip from me. You don't get that for just showing up.

If this were implemented, how soon would we be expected to add an extra 15% additional tip to get good service?

5 posted on 09/13/2006 8:10:10 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Dems - Your conduct is an invitation to the enemy, yet few of you have heart enough to join them.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Being a waiter isn't a career, it's a way to make money to get you through college.


7 posted on 09/13/2006 8:10:58 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: LurkedLongEnough
20% automatically???

I usually tip 20% if the service is good, but if the service is not good, it slips. The idea behind a tip is "To Insure Proper Service". Socialism invades the restaurant industry.
8 posted on 09/13/2006 8:11:57 AM PDT by Londo Molari
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To: LurkedLongEnough
Give better service get better tips....I really hate an AUTOMATIC gratuity...then the waiter has little incentive to give great service...

BTW..I have tip better than 35% for exceptional service and OCCASIONALLY don't tip bad service.
9 posted on 09/13/2006 8:12:06 AM PDT by conservativehusker (GO BIG RED!!!!)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

I tip according to the service and the meal. The better those two are the more freeer I am with my money.


10 posted on 09/13/2006 8:12:09 AM PDT by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
A website called "bitterwaitress.com" used to have a place where you could submit and look up stories about lousy tippers.When you looked up Kerry you got several stories about him leaving something like a $10 tip on a $200 bill.

The database is down now,however.Probably got sued by Mr Ketchup himself.

11 posted on 09/13/2006 8:12:51 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("An empty limousine pulled up and Hillary Clinton got out")
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To: TexasCajun

15-20% for good service......

....a sliding scale less for crappy service...


12 posted on 09/13/2006 8:13:29 AM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
To level the playing field, waiters are taking action.

IOW, they're democrats who want a guaranteed income.

Ulutas, a 36 year-old restaurant manager in Atlanta, founded a nonprofit organization, Fairtip.org, to persuade restaurants to implement an automatic 20 percent service fee on every check.

Then there'll be no incentive to provide good service. The lousy waiters will be protected from the consequences of their poor performance, while good waiters won't have the incentive they now do to provide the best service possible.

13 posted on 09/13/2006 8:14:08 AM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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Being a waiter isn't a career, it's a way to make money to get you through college.

Tell that to the waiters at Burns Steak House. They make more money than most college grads could imagine.

14 posted on 09/13/2006 8:14:46 AM PDT by zarf
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To: LurkedLongEnough

"a waiter, apparently miffed by a $2 to $3 tip left on a $50 check, attacked them with a knife."

Sounds like just a great waiter. I'm sure he was very attentive and respectful of his customers, too..../sarc

Had such a waiter attacked me with a knife over a low tip, I do believe I would have disarmed him and buried the knife somewhere in his midsection. Ridiculous. Unless he was an experienced knife-fighter, which I doubt, he'd only cut me once.


15 posted on 09/13/2006 8:15:12 AM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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To: dfwgator

Dear dfwgator,

"Being a waiter isn't a career, it's a way to make money to get you through college."

For folks who wait tables at mid-range to somewhat more upscale restaurants, annual compensation for full-time work can easily amount to $40,000, and go well beyond that.


sitetets


16 posted on 09/13/2006 8:15:58 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Hydroshock

You can always send the meal back; usually that's the fault of the cook. Poor attention (or too much) is the fault of the waiter. I automatically know that if I come alone into a restaurant that I will receive less attention than a pair or group of people. There is a preconception that a lone woman will be a poor tipper. I always tip 20% if service is adequate, and find that the waiters treat me with more consideration on my next visit.


17 posted on 09/13/2006 8:18:58 AM PDT by widowithfoursons
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To: LurkedLongEnough
I always tip 20%, unless the service was atrocious.

In the past several years down here in South Florida, a number of restaurants have been going the service compris route of French restaurants and including on the bill anywhere up to a 15% tip. You have to catch that when you get the initial bill (at least if paying by credit card), because when the total check/credit slip comes back for you to sign, there is no indication that a tip has already been included -- but there is usually a line for "tip." An additional tip, of course, but they should at least make that clear. And I don't give an additional tip if the tip is included.

19 posted on 09/13/2006 8:20:06 AM PDT by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: TexasCajun
I tip according to services, not the value of the meal alone.

As do I.
I doubt if I would patronize a restaurant which added the tip automatically to my bill. Talk about the surest path to surly service at best, horrible service at worst!

My tipping goes as follows:

Bad service -- no tip.
Adequate service -- 15%
Superior service -- 20% - 33%

Eliminate my prerogative, and you eliminate my business.
Yes, it's that simple.

20 posted on 09/13/2006 8:20:10 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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