Son Gets Marijuana for Doing Homework

http://www.comcast.net/ ^ | 9 12 06 | Associated Press

[freepatriot32]

GETTYSBURG, Pa. - A woman admitted to smoking marijuana daily with her 13-year-old son to reward him for completing his homework. Amanda Lynn Livelsberger, 30, pleaded guilty to several charges Monday and will be sentenced Nov. 27.

Livelsberger, of Conewago Township, admitted in Adams County court that she had been smoking marijuana with her son since he was 11, and that she often gave it to him as a reward.

The boy told police that he was required to do his homework as soon as he got home from school, and then was allowed to smoke marijuana with his mother, according to court documents.

Livelsberger pleaded guilty to misdemeanor charges of corruption of minors, possession with intent to deliver drug paraphernalia, possession of drug paraphernalia, possession of a small amount of marijuana and possession of a small amount of marijuana with intent to distribute.

The plea did not stipulate a sentence.

The woman also said she also smoked marijuana with two of her son's friends, ages 17 and 18, police said. The 18-year-old also told investigators he had also bought heroin from Livelsberger.

[mugs99]

Here, read this and educate yourself.
ROTFLMAO!!!
I posted current scientific research. You replied with a quote from a book written by Jon Archer in 1995, an excerpt from a "study" conducted by Dr. Kadden in 1997, a report by John Anderson, the famous Austrailian anti pot crusader, presented at a seminar to the Adult ADD support group in Sydney in 1997 and an article from the New York Times of Jan 29, 2002!

You claim to be a professional who works with ADD/ADHD kids on a daily basis...and this is the best you can come up with???

Time to update your ammo soldier!
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[mugs99]

I located this on the web. Is this the "scientific research" you are so excited about?
No, it's not. I cited my references. Why do you need to Google the web for this crap when a professional like you has access to current literature and research?

You said: "As a School Psychologist who works with children diagnosed with ADD/ADHD every day".
I even gave you a source where you could get current info...a source that is used by medical doctors, psychiatrists and psychologists in California...and you have to Google the web trying to find something, anything, to refute the references I cited???
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[Know your rights]

Does smoking marijuana provide enough THC to the system to have a similar effect on Alzheimer's?

Obviously that depends on how much one smokes.

maybe you shouldn't be too anxious to flout your ignorance of this topic.

The self-referential irony is priceless.

[Know your rights]

As I said: He's provided evidence, you've provided bupkus.

Well, as I said earlier, nobody has provided any scientific evidence.

My statement remains correct.

Interestingly enough, the societies that engaged in lots of pot smoking were always very primitive,

Which societies were those? Have there been enough of them to form a statistically valid conclusion? And did they differ in no other relevant way from the other cultures you mention?

What you've posted is only the sketchiest foreshadowing of an actual argument.

while other cultures that did not were busy developing actual ideas into real things.

While drinking alcohol. Should we conclude that more alcohol use leads to more "developing actual ideas into real things" and encourage, or mandate, alcohol use?

[robertpaulsen]

"Obviously that depends on how much one smokes."

So you're stating for a fact that one can smoke enough marijuana to ingest the amount of THC necessary to have an effect on Alzheimer's?

[mugs99]

The self-referential irony is priceless.
Lol!

[robertpaulsen]

Big difference between not knowing and asking a question and not knowing and stating a fact.

MrLeRoy is not smart enough to recognize this, but I thought you might be.

[Know your rights]

So you're stating for a fact that one can smoke enough marijuana to ingest the amount of THC necessary to have an effect on Alzheimer's?

No. Are you stating for a fact that one can't? If not, what's your point?

[robertpaulsen]

Then stop coming to the defense of those who say marijuana has an effect on Alzheimer's. You don't know that.

[Know your rights]

mugs99 overstated his case in saying, "Medical marijuana supporters have been claiming since 1996 that marijuana helps stop alzheimers disease. That claim has now been proven by scientists." He would have been 100% correct in saying "has been given significant support by scientists."

[robertpaulsen]

"He would have been 100% correct in saying "has been given significant support by scientists."

The scientists said nothing about marijuana. They were studying THC.

Delta-9-THC, for example, inhibits primary Lewis lung tumor growth, whereas cannabidiol (CBD) enhances tumor growth. How can you possibly conclude that smoking marijuana (which contains both) would have a positive effect?

[mugs99]

Big difference between not knowing and asking a question and not knowing and stating a fact. MrLeRoy is not smart enough to recognize this, but I thought you might be.
Uh...I don't have a clue to what you're talking about.
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[Know your rights]

In the absence of any known link between other cannabinoids and increased Alzheimer's, my conclusion (which was "support" not definitive proof) is sound. If you know of such a link, let's hear about it.

[mugs99]

You're right...Medical marijuana supporters have been claiming since 1996 that marijuana helps stop alzheimers disease. That claim has been given significant support by scientists.
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[mugs99]

The scientists said nothing about marijuana. They were studying THC. Delta-9-THC, for example...

You're grasping at straws.
Journal of the American Medical Association, Dr. Lester Grinspoon MD:
"The main active substance in cannabis, 9-tetrahydrocannabinol (9-THC), has been available for limited purposes as a Schedule II synthetic drug since 1985. This medicine, dronabinol (Marinol), taken orally in capsule form, is sometimes said to obviate the need for medical marihuana. Patients and physicians who have tried both disagree. The dosage and duration of action of marihuana are easier to control, and other cannabinoids in the marihuana plant may modify the action of 9-THC. The development of cannabinoids in pure form should certainly be encouraged, but the time and resources required are great and at present unavailable. In these circumstances, further isolation, testing, and development of individual cannabinoids should not be considered a substitute for meeting the immediate needs of suffering people."
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[LukeL]

Not much has changed, many people still smoke marijuana, I am 21 and know many of my friends parents smoke on a regualr basis. Even people who you would never think would smoke do, like your doctor or lawyer.

[robertpaulsen]

"In the absence of any known link between other cannabinoids and increased Alzheimer's, my conclusion (which was "support" not definitive proof) is sound."

So if a chemical in gasoline helps Alzheimer's, then drinking gasoline is OK. And you call that a "sound" conclusion.

Go away you troll.

[robertpaulsen]

"Dr. Lester Grinspoon MD"

Oh geez, screw that quack.

I'm referring to the Scripps Research Institute study YOU cited which concerned THC, not marijuana. You can't make these global assumptions about the efficacy of marijuana when the study limited itself to THC.

[mugs99]

Oh geez, screw that quack
ROFL!
The American Medical Association is a bunch of quacks?
Why don't you try to refute his statement instead of the ad hominem attack?

I'm referring to the Scripps Research Institute study YOU cited which concerned THC, not marijuana. You can't make these global assumptions about the efficacy of marijuana when the study limited itself to THC.

Still grasping at straws?
The title of the study: "A Molecular Link Between the Active Component of Marijuana and Alzheimer's Disease Pathology"
THC is the active ingredient in marijuana. It doesn't matter if you eat it, smoke it or swallow a THC pill. Doctors are treating Alzheimer's patients with medical marijuana. It works.

[robertpaulsen]

"Why don't you try to refute his statement instead of the ad hominem attack?"

Because he's a pro-marijuana quack. "Immediate needs of suffering people", indeed.

"THC is the active ingredient in marijuana."

Yep. And that's all that was studied -- not the other 399 chemicals in marijuana which may or may not have a counteractive effect.