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America on Fascist Trajectory (Moonbat/VIPS Ray McGovern letter to Boston Globe)

Posted on 09/11/2006 12:55:02 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers

YOUR DISMISSAL of comparing President Bush and Hitler as ``hyperbole" (``Loose lips sink history," editorial, Aug. 31) is a gravely wrong and dangerous reading of history, Bush's program, and our responsibilities today.

Nazism's horrors didn't emerge the moment Hitler took power in 1933, but over 12 years, driven by the logic of empire and war.

No analogy is exact, but the Bush administration has already invaded two countries, guided by an official doctrine of global dominance and illegal preemptive war. It now threatens Iran, possibly with nuclear weapons.

It has committed war crimes through torture, rendition, and illegal detention -- which Bush still insists must continue. It has grabbed unprecedented power, spied on millions, and eviscerated rights. If this isn't a fascist trajectory, what is?

The Germans accommodated abuse after abuse, and didn't massively resist while they could. Such denial and politics as usual is far too prevalent today and a big reason Bush's crimes haven't been met with a tidal wave of public repudiation.

We were cosigners of the ad you cited, and as members of worldcantwait.org, we are working to reverse this terrible direction and planning a nationwide day of resistance.

RAY McGOVERN Arlington, Va.

LARRY EVEREST Berkeley, Calif.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: mcgovern; moonbat; nutjob; vips
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1 posted on 09/11/2006 12:55:04 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers
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To: Dems_R_Losers
and illegal preemptive war

A more ignorant, less educated individual would be hard to find.

2 posted on 09/11/2006 12:56:33 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Dems_R_Losers

Who is a Ray McGovern?


3 posted on 09/11/2006 12:57:05 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Dems_R_Losers

"Spied on millions"?

NAME ONE!


4 posted on 09/11/2006 12:57:36 PM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: massgopguy
NAME ONE!

Osama bin Laden.

5 posted on 09/11/2006 12:58:33 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: Dems_R_Losers
No analogy is exact, but the Bush administration has already invaded two countries, guided by an official doctrine of global dominance and illegal preemptive war. It now threatens Iran, possibly with nuclear weapons.

Interesting sentence structure. Is he referring to Iran's nuclear program, or the possibility that the United States may end up having to nuke Iran in response to them nuking us?

6 posted on 09/11/2006 12:59:18 PM PDT by Gordongekko909 (Mark 5:9)
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To: Dems_R_Losers

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1972 Election Map. Blue = Nixon, Red = McGovern.


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7 posted on 09/11/2006 12:59:24 PM PDT by msnimje (What part of-- "DEATH TO AMERICA" --do the Democrats not understand?)
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To: Dems_R_Losers

Well maybe Ray and Larry can head over to the Middle East and see how they feel after they get the Nick Berg treatment from any number of Islamofascist terrorists.

Quite frankly, with their mentality, it wouldn't be much of a loss to their fellow Americans. They're already in the far left moonbat camp of sedition and treason.

Some idiots have to learn their lessons by losing their lives for failed ideologies and foolish notions, these two maggots fit the bill.

Hey, that's life.


8 posted on 09/11/2006 12:59:35 PM PDT by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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To: Dems_R_Losers

I can't wait for the Nationwide Day of Resistance.


9 posted on 09/11/2006 12:59:42 PM PDT by Pondman88
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Ray Mc Govern is Larry Everst's lover/boyfriend


10 posted on 09/11/2006 12:59:50 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Don't you think it's interesting how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather?)
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To: Dems_R_Losers

But the Dems have been losing elections.


11 posted on 09/11/2006 1:00:57 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Dems_R_Losers

Bush/Cheney 08


12 posted on 09/11/2006 1:01:23 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Dems_R_Losers
Nazism's horrors didn't emerge the moment Hitler took power in 1933, but over 12 years, driven by the logic of empire and war.

No, idiots - Hitler's horrors emerged in 1925 when he published Mein Kampf and told the world exactly what he was going to do. Then he did it.

Kinda like how the Islamofascists have told us exactly what THEY are planning to do.

And you, idiots that you are, are ignoring the warnings just like the world ignored Hitler's warning.

13 posted on 09/11/2006 1:01:51 PM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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"Larry Everest has covered the Middle East and Central Asia for over 20 years for the Revolutionary Worker newspaper and other publications."

Straight out commie! LOL

14 posted on 09/11/2006 1:02:20 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Ray McGovern is one of the leading lights of the fever-swamp anti-Bush/anti-Israel crowd, a disgraced former CIA employee. Here is just a sample of his delightful activities and thoughts:

Questionable "Intelligence"

15 posted on 09/11/2006 1:03:21 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Bill Clinton is Chief Loser)
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To: Dems_R_Losers
The leftists who say that we "shouldn't have invaded Iraq" often point to targets that "we should have gone to first" like Iran, North Korea, and Saudi Arabia.

As we move on, they say "where will it all stop".

The peanut gallery cries just to make noise.

16 posted on 09/11/2006 1:04:58 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: massgopguy
I think he was upset because Bush spied on some guy named Osama.... Probably a friend of McGovern's....

Honestly though, the left just can't get off being "stuck on stupid" with the War on Terror. We didn't ask for this war and Israel has nothing to do with the "terrorist's anger". The bottom line is, we ARE fighting fascism (known today as Islamofascism). The Islamofascists gave us "infidels" (leftists, this includes you) two choices. #1, we convert at gunpoint and submit to a life of slavery and poverty; or, #2, the Islamofascists kill ALL of us.

The left seems to be all upset that we dared make another choice: #3, we kill every Islamofascist in the universe and crush them so they never return no matter how long it takes.

For some reason the left either can't see the threat of Islamofascim and the tremendous amount of legal (civil rights) safeties built into the US War on Terror, or they simply refuse to. No only that, the left goes out of their way to do everything but shoot the US/Coalition soldiers themselves.... And even that is no longer an issue after what happened in Pierce Co, Wash.
17 posted on 09/11/2006 1:06:55 PM PDT by M1Tanker (Proven Daily: Modern "progressive" liberalism is just National Socialism without the "twisted cross")
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To: Dems_R_Losers
I guess this is what they are referring to, from worldcantwait.org:

YOUR GOVERNMENT, on the basis of outrageous lies, is waging a murderous and utterly illegitimate war in Iraq, with other countries in their sights.

YOUR GOVERNMENT is openly torturing people, and justifying it.

YOUR GOVERNMENT puts people in jail on the merest suspicion, refusing them lawyers, and either holding them indefinitely or deporting them in the dead of night.

YOUR GOVERNMENT is moving each day closer to a theocracy, where a narrow and hateful brand of Christian fundamentalism will rule.

YOUR GOVERNMENT suppresses the science that doesn't fit its religious, political and economic agenda, forcing present and future generations to pay a terrible price.

YOUR GOVERNMENT is moving to deny women here, and all over the world, the right to birth control and abortion.

YOUR GOVERNMENT enforces a culture of greed, bigotry, intolerance and ignorance.

People look at all this and think of Hitler - and they are right to do so.

Ray, Lar -- to rule is that the first one to mention Hitler loses.

You should see the other signatories to this. A regular roundup of the "usual suspects."

18 posted on 09/11/2006 1:09:53 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The moving finger writes and, having writ, moves on......)
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To: Pondman88
I can't wait for the Nationwide Day of Resistance.

I showed up over at the White House with my camera to document the last one. There was literally NO ONE there. I asked the Secret Service & they didn't even know anything about it. In fact, they were so uncomfortable with how much more I knew about it than they, I ended up answering their questions for several minutes.

19 posted on 09/11/2006 1:10:08 PM PDT by nina0113
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To: Dems_R_Losers

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"No analogy is exact,..."
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You are right and yours sucked! First, the NAZIs were SOCLIALISTS! Second, Hitler's opposition was the church and faith based people. He destroyed them. Third, Hitler took over countries, Bush liberates countries. Foruth, you are a moron and I suspect somewhat proud of that fact!


20 posted on 09/11/2006 1:10:09 PM PDT by avacado
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