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ABC's Untrue Path -- "Docudramas" are the worst draft of history.
Opinion Journal ^ | Sept. 11, 2006 | John Fund

Posted on 09/11/2006 12:44:19 PM PDT by PDR

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To: CharlesWayneCT
I agree with your assessment, but would note that I wouldn't want to "teach the history" of Pearl Harbor by just showing "Pearl Harbor".

I wouldn't show that crappy movie at all. "Tora, Tora, Tora" was much better.

61 posted on 09/11/2006 1:33:29 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: durasell

every movie is "entertainment" - that doesn't mean movies are thus invalidated as being able to present historical information.


62 posted on 09/11/2006 1:33:45 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: cvq3842
THAT'S censorship.

No...that's Fascism.

63 posted on 09/11/2006 1:34:58 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Winning shows strength. Winning without fighting shows brilliance.)
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To: oceanview

every movie is "entertainment" - that doesn't mean movies are thus invalidated as being able to present historical information...



To me it does. In my world view, Ken Burns, et al are a dicey proposition. Unless it's in a book with sources cited, I take it with a grain of salt.

I may be too much of a hardass on this. But I'm allowed to be a hardass because I'm an old guy.


64 posted on 09/11/2006 1:36:58 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

the focus should be on - what are the UNTRUTHS being portrayed, and are they significant enough to invalidate the movie. so if the movie shows the two american fighter pilots from Haleiwa field kissing their girlfriends before they took off, and that didn't actually happen, who cares? it has no bearing on the significance of the fact that they flew their airplanes into the battle against tremendous odds.


65 posted on 09/11/2006 1:43:01 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: durasell

Did you see Scholastic has put out a REVISED study guide for The Path to 9/11:

http://content.scholastic.com/browse/lessonplan.jsp?id=424

Now it is all about the slanted media angle...THE SLANTED RIGHT WING MEDIA, of course!!!

Share this with everyone to let them know about how they pulled their first study guide...(anyone get it before it went away), then apologized for its inaccuracies: http://www.scholastic.com/medialiteracy/ (Seriously...this is the link to the apology), and now its about the evil slant of right wing media (it tells the students to research using the internet to find differing views, which after the DU google-bombing will take them straight to the radical left wing "TRUTH")


66 posted on 09/11/2006 1:43:07 PM PDT by connor_in (opus & bill 2008)
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To: PDR

I was dubious, but this movie was very factual.


67 posted on 09/11/2006 1:45:42 PM PDT by veronica (NEW LITERARY AND ARTS JOURNAL offers free advertising for writers, bloggers, artists. FRmail me...)
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To: P-40
but I don't know what the alternative is.

Well, the National Geographic Channel is rerunning the documentary Inside 9-11 tonight. They say at their website that it has been updated.

If I am correct about this show, it is a timeline and a straight documentary. Now, timeline sounds boring, but I found it very interesting. (Actually, I believe they showed this in two parts. Part 1 was the beginning of the jihadists movement and the early history of Bin Laden. The second part was focused on 9/11.)

I just checked my tv guide (I'm on the west coast) and they show it being aired from 6-10 pm. This seems about right.

So, if you want a real documentary, timeline style, this is your show. I watched it, taped it for my husband and he watched the whole thing. Both of us were angry after. My daughter, age 18, watched the tape, twice.

68 posted on 09/11/2006 1:46:39 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: veronica

if you were dubious, who are you now?


69 posted on 09/11/2006 1:55:53 PM PDT by PDR
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To: connor_in

Why would they "teach television?" They're idiots.


70 posted on 09/11/2006 1:58:04 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: PDR

John Fund advocates "cut and run" in Iraq. I have a hard time relating to people like him, especially on 9-11...


71 posted on 09/11/2006 2:01:33 PM PDT by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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To: Dixie Yooper

>The woman who played Madeleine Albright should get an Emmy. Very believable.<

I've seen her in a mini-series some years ago. A very good actress, very well casted here, but very flattering to Mad Albright.


72 posted on 09/11/2006 2:02:06 PM PDT by Paperdoll
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Yup.


73 posted on 09/11/2006 2:02:24 PM PDT by cvq3842
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To: PDR

Like an old swashbuckler, could this production be viewed as a romantic recruiting film for Jihad by some?


74 posted on 09/11/2006 2:06:16 PM PDT by Paperdoll
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To: PDR

Not dubious.


75 posted on 09/11/2006 2:06:41 PM PDT by veronica (NEW LITERARY AND ARTS JOURNAL offers free advertising for writers, bloggers, artists. FRmail me...)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
I've always been amazed at this image. Is it for real? If so, what could they have been thinking?
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Think what? This was an average day in the Clinton White House.

You should see the pictures they have with Monica in them.
76 posted on 09/11/2006 2:29:47 PM PDT by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: PDR
I didn't watch (except for about 15 minutes) the first part, nor shall I watch the second. It was just too jumpily-fragmented for me.

Mainly, though, I don't care for "docudramas" (fiction based on fact, or fact based on fiction).

In the main, this drama just happened to be in "our favor". The next one may be the reverse. Watch the howls.

Given the fact that the politically-uneducated voters and the dim-bulb voters in this country believe most of what they see on TV and are too uncaring, stupid or lazy to verify things for themselves, I don't look on made-for-TV "docudramas" (leaning toward any point of view whatsoever) as a positive thing for this country.

If there is a film to be made on politics or war, give me the known facts and back them up......or give me historical entertaining fiction and bill it as such.

Leni

77 posted on 09/11/2006 2:46:54 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Israel, Hold Firm !................No Retreat means No Repeat !)
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78 posted on 09/11/2006 2:47:50 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (the war on poverty should include health club memberships for the morbidly poor)
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To: MinuteGal

Bravo!


79 posted on 09/11/2006 2:48:58 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: PghBaldy

Guns of Navarone was real????


80 posted on 09/11/2006 3:17:44 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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