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Be careful what you wish for
The American Thinker ^ | 9/11/06 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 09/11/2006 7:54:39 AM PDT by Renfield

The villainous Americans, so brutal and racist, have given over control of Abu Ghraib Prison to the Iraqis, who are able to provide appropriate and culturally sensitive care to the charges who inhabit its cells. The UK Telegraph reports:

An independent witness who went into Abu Ghraib this week told The Sunday Telegraph that screams were coming from the cell blocks housing the terrorist suspects. Prisoners released from the jail this week spoke of routine torture of terrorism suspects and on Wednesday, 27 prisoners were hanged in the first mass execution since the overthrow of Saddam Hussein’s regime.

Conditions in the rest of the jail were grim, with an overwhelming stench of excrement, prisoners crammed into cells for all but 20 minutes a day, food rations cut to just rice and water and no air conditioning.

Some of the small number of prisoners who remained in the jail after the Americans left said they had pleaded to go with their departing captors, rather than be left in the hands of Iraqi guards. [emphasis added]

Of course, far worse abuses occurred under Saddam, but the critics of America paid no heed. Of course, official brutality is quite normal in much of the Arab world. But the critics of America save theri outrage for fraternity initiation-style pranks which landed the perpetrators in jail.

Hat tip: Dennis Sevakis

Thomas Lifson 9 11 06


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abughraib; iraq; prisons; torture
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1 posted on 09/11/2006 7:54:39 AM PDT by Renfield
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2 posted on 09/11/2006 7:56:29 AM PDT by Renfield
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To: Renfield

Don't hold your breath waiting for the LameStream Media to report this.


3 posted on 09/11/2006 7:56:46 AM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d, N0t Y0urs | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: Renfield
I remember hearing about this on the Evening News.

NOT

4 posted on 09/11/2006 7:56:54 AM PDT by small voice in the wilderness
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5 posted on 09/11/2006 7:58:13 AM PDT by Mo1 (Think about it .. A Speaker Nancy Pelosi could be 2 seats away from being President)
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Tee Hee!


6 posted on 09/11/2006 8:00:02 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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I thought the stories I saw said the place was empty when the U.S. turned it over. How could any remaining prisoners be pleading to go with the crusaders?


7 posted on 09/11/2006 8:00:18 AM PDT by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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SWEET!


8 posted on 09/11/2006 8:03:14 AM PDT by Londo Molari
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I hate to say this, but when word gets out to the general population that terrorists are being routinely tortured and hanged in Iraqi prisons, it will do more to stop the terrorist attacks than adding another 50,000 US troops ever could. After all, it worked for Saddam.


9 posted on 09/11/2006 8:03:41 AM PDT by finnigan2
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Liberals said Abu Ghraib wasn't nice
But it seems that they should have thought twice
While it may not be fair
Exposing balls to the air
It's much worse when they're squeezed in a vise


10 posted on 09/11/2006 8:08:35 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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It seems most Muslims, in their country of origin, actually EXPECT their fellow muslims to treat prisoners this way. But God forbid if an American makes them play naked twister, then it's "DEATH TO THE INFIDELS!!"


11 posted on 09/11/2006 8:13:08 AM PDT by lovecraft (Specialization is for insects.)
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The witness said that even in the thieves' section prisoners were being treated badly. "Someone was shouting 'Please help us, we want the human rights officers, we want the Americans to come back'," he said.

And Khalid Alaani, who was also picked up in Ramadi suspected of involvement in Sunni terrorism, said: "We preferred the Americans. We asked to move with them to Baghdad airport because we knew the treatment would be changed because we know what the Iraqis are. When the Americans left everything changed."

12 posted on 09/11/2006 8:16:56 AM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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Doesn't surprise me in the least.


13 posted on 09/11/2006 8:19:19 AM PDT by Chewie84
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

LOL! You should send to O'Reilly!


14 posted on 09/11/2006 8:21:47 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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When we need to interrogate a subhuman, just turn him over to the Iraquis.


15 posted on 09/11/2006 8:33:30 AM PDT by libstripper (!!)
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LOL! You should send to O'Reilly!

Thanks! Is it "pithy" enough?

16 posted on 09/11/2006 8:40:57 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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Independent Witness is not identified or even described...

I would prefer facts based on verifiable informatiion. But that's just me, I guess...


17 posted on 09/11/2006 8:41:10 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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"Sorry, Abu Grab is under new management, and we only accept infidels as prisoners now! If you'd like to convert to Christianity, we'd be happy to rent you a room in our resort in Cuba! Meanwhile, enjoy your stay!" Heh-heh.


18 posted on 09/11/2006 8:46:19 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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I think the Libs are right we should shut down the Cuba camp and ship them all to Abu Ghraib Prison.
19 posted on 09/11/2006 9:28:39 AM PDT by Dr. I. C. Spots
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"I hate to say this, but when word gets out to the general population that terrorists are being routinely tortured and hanged in Iraqi prisons, it will do more to stop the terrorist attacks than adding another 50,000 US troops ever could. After all, it worked for Saddam."

Our soldiers would probably agree with you.
Way too many stories of insurgents arrested then released.

We know how 'dirty wars' are fought, and nothing is dirtier than terrorism. It's a troubling conclusion, but if we cant win against terrorists without resorting to torture,
where does that leave the "Kumbaya" crowd?
Where does that leave us, who want to win and want to do it in a way that is honorable?

I think it leaves us continuing to fight as we do, but letting others fight it as they will. We got enough flak from Shia politicians who claimed we werent tough enough on the insurgents. And we have enough Americans dead in Iraq to turn a deaf ear on the pleas of insurgents for us to help them out. Screw them. If they want mercy from fellow Iraqis, let them lead by example.


20 posted on 09/11/2006 9:32:36 AM PDT by WOSG (Broken-glass time, Republicans! Save the Congress!)
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