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Tortured screams ring out as Iraqis take over Abu Ghraib
Telegraph.co.uk ^ | 10/09/2006 | Ali Saber in Baghdad and Gethin Chamberlain

Posted on 09/11/2006 2:29:30 AM PDT by utcamper

The notorious Abu Ghraib prison in Baghdad is at the centre of fresh abuse allegations just a week after it was handed over to Iraqi authorities, with claims that inmates are being tortured by their new captors.

Staff at the jail say the Iraqi authorities have moved dozens of terrorist suspects into Abu Ghraib from the controversial Interior Ministry detention centre in Jadriyah, where United States troops last year discovered 169 prisoners who had been tortured and starved.

An independent witness who went into Abu Ghraib this week told The Sunday Telegraph that screams were coming from the cell blocks housing the terrorist suspects. Prisoners released from the jail this week spoke of routine torture of terrorism suspects and on Wednesday, 27 prisoners were hanged in the first mass execution since the overthrow of Saddam Hussein's regime.

Conditions in the rest of the jail were grim, with an overwhelming stench of excrement, prisoners crammed into cells for all but 20 minutes a day, food rations cut to just rice and water and no air conditioning.

Some of the small number of prisoners who remained in the jail after the Americans left said they had pleaded to go with their departing captors, rather than be left in the hands of Iraqi guards.

"The Americans were better than the Iraqis. They treated us better," said Khalid Alaani, who was held on suspicion of involvement in Sunni terrorism.

Abu Ghraib became synonymous with abuse after shocking pictures were published in 2004 showing prisoners being tortured and humiliated, galvanising opposition to the US presence in Iraq.

The witness gained access to the prison just days after the Americans formally handed over control to the Iraqi authorities on Sept 1.

Inside the 100-yard long cell block the smell of excrement was overpowering. Four to six prisoners shared each of the 12ft by 15ft cells along either side and the walls were smeared with filth. The cell block was patrolled by guards who carried long batons and shouted angrily at the prisoners to stand up.

Access to the part of the prison containing terrorism suspects was denied, but from that block came the sound of screaming. The screaming continued for a long time.

"I am sure someone was being beaten, they were screaming like they were being hit," the witness reported. "I felt scared, I was asking what was happening in the terrorist section.

"I heard shouting, like someone had a hot iron on their body, screams. The officer said they were just screaming by themselves. I was hearing the screams throughout the visit."

The witness said that even in the thieves' section prisoners were being treated badly. "Someone was shouting 'Please help us, we want the human rights officers, we want the Americans to come back'," he said.

Prisoners interviewed in the presence of their jailers said they were frightened for their safety. They complained that chicken and milk had been cut from their rations, leaving them on rice and water. They also complained about the oppressive heat.

Outside the prison, relatives of some of the inmates said they were being tortured by their captors. One woman, who gave her name as Omsaad, said: "My son Saad [who was arrested in Fallujah as a suspected insurgent] said he is being tortured by the Iraqis to confess the name of his leader. I met my son and he told me they were being treated badly by the Iraqis."

Haleem Aleulami, who was released from the jail last week, three weeks after being arrested in Ramadi for carrying a pistol in his car, said the Americans had treated him better when they ran the jail. He claimed that visits from the International Red Cross staff had dried up and accused local human rights workers of being members of Shia groups who turned a blind eye to problems in the jail.

"The people are Iraqis and they are members of the Sciri and al Dawa parties. They have a good relationship with the leaders of the jail and they keep quiet," he said. The guards swore at the ordinary prisoners, he said, but those in the terrorist section were treated more brutally.

"The guards were swearing at us, but in the terrorist section they were beating them. I heard it all the time. Everyone knows what is happening."

And Khalid Alaani, who was also picked up in Ramadi suspected of involvement in Sunni terrorism, said: "We preferred the Americans. We asked to move with them to Baghdad airport because we knew the treatment would be changed because we know what the Iraqis are. When the Americans left everything changed."

Staff at the jail said that the prisoners were allowed out from their cells for only 15 to 20 minutes a day because of the danger from the regular mortar attacks. They are no longer allowed access to the main hall where the Americans had allowed them to watch television and the room is now reserved for the use of officers and guards. Staff explained that the air conditioning in the cell blocks had broken, although it was working in their quarters.

One officer, Capt Ali Abdelzaher, said: "We have a problem with the financing for the food, not like the Americans, and there is a technical problem with the air conditioning."

Capt Abdelzaher also confirmed that a number of inmates had been transferred from the Jadriyah detention centre, along with their guards and interrogators.

Graphic stories of abuse at that previously secret facility emerged after US soldiers found 169 prisoners showing signs of torture last November.

Most of the prisoners held by the Americans at Abu Ghraib were either released in recent months or transferred to a new £32 million detention centre at Camp Cropper near Baghdad International Airport.

Yesterday, the International Red Cross confirmed that its visits to the prison had been suspended since January 2005 on security grounds.


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To: roaddog727
Gee. imagine that. Someone should tell Ted Kennedy and J F'n K.

And Tick Turbin.

61 posted on 09/11/2006 10:04:04 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: utcamper
I'm still a new poster here and am trying to be a productive member of this fine community.

And therein lies the problem. That makes you the perfect victim for the posting police, a.k.a. hall monitors.

62 posted on 09/11/2006 10:06:09 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: utcamper

Hajji's hate the waterboard. Ramzi bin al Sheeb sang like a canary after about a minute on the waterboard.


63 posted on 09/11/2006 10:09:25 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (USAF Air Rescue "That others may live.")
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To: Wil H

"Or they are using Hillary Clinton's panties.
hillary doesn't wear panties, they interfere with her grip on her broomstick..."

ROTFLMAO!

Nearly sprayed the keyboard with that one!


64 posted on 09/11/2006 10:19:48 AM PDT by roaddog727 (Bullsh## doesn't get bridges built.)
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To: utcamper

"We want the Americans back" LoL


65 posted on 09/11/2006 10:22:07 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Former Dodger

Thanks for the ping!


66 posted on 09/11/2006 10:56:16 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: utcamper

They'd be complaining of torture if the French were running the place and serving them hot cocoa at bedtime.


67 posted on 09/11/2006 1:45:10 PM PDT by TNdandelion
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To: utcamper
As I've always said, underwear on the head is NOT torture.

Frat boy hazing rituals were worse than that.

Crying about panties on theirs heads, oh the humanity!

Bet they wish they could get some of that treatment now. :-))

The libs got their wish, we handed over Abu Grab to the Iraqi's. hehehehe

68 posted on 09/11/2006 1:48:49 PM PDT by AFreeBird (If American "cowboy diplomacy" did not exist, it would be necessary to invent it.)
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To: utcamper

"You're Gonna' Miss Me When I'm Gone"

The song US Military jailers should have been singing as they turned
over their charges to the Iraqi authorities.


69 posted on 09/11/2006 1:52:07 PM PDT by VOA
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To: utcamper

Look we must respect the difference in our cultures, or so we have been told.


70 posted on 09/11/2006 1:53:08 PM PDT by Boiler Plate (Mom always said why be difficult, when with just a little more effort you can be impossible.)
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To: jan in Colorado

Staff at the jail say the Iraqi authorities have moved dozens of terrorist suspects into Abu Ghraib from the controversial Interior Ministry detention centre in Jadriyah, where United States troops last year discovered 169 prisoners who had been tortured and starved...

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Explains who they are and where they came from. The last report I saw on TV stated that the prison was now empty.


71 posted on 09/11/2006 4:25:42 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (ENEMY + MEDIA = ENEMEDIA)
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To: Netizen
Ha. Did ja see #17?
72 posted on 09/12/2006 12:36:05 AM PDT by tdscpa
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To: utcamper

An independent witness who went into Abu Ghraib this week told The Sunday Telegraph that screams were coming from the cell blocks housing the terrorist suspects. Prisoners released from the jail this week spoke of routine torture of terrorism suspects and on Wednesday, 27 prisoners were
hanged in the first mass execution since the overthrow of Saddam Hussein's regime.

When I was there they were still digging up body parts that had been buried during the previous Iraqi admin. And they cry about some stupid photos and panties……think twice stupid moops.

Conditions in the rest of the jail were grim, with an overwhelming stench of excrement, prisoners crammed into cells for all but 20 minutes a day, food rations cut to just rice and water and no air conditioning.

Good, they were just getting fat off all the American food they were eating anyway, I am sure they are much healthier now.

Some of the small number of prisoners who remained in the jail after the Americans left said they had pleaded to go with their departing captors, rather than be left in the hands of Iraqi guards.

I wish Rush would pick up this story and run with it.

The witness gained access to the prison just days after the Americans formally handed over control to the Iraqi authorities on Sept 1.

Jeeze, think about how much worse it is going to get for them, that was only a few weeks ago. Sucks to be a terrorist at Abu G:-)

Inside the 100-yard long cell block the smell of excrement was overpowering. Four to six prisoners shared each of the 12ft by 15ft cells along either side and the walls were smeared with filth. The cell block was patrolled by guards who carried long batons and shouted angrily at the prisoners to stand up.

Well, if they didn’t wipe crap on the walls it wouldn’t be so bad now would it? I bet the Iraqi guards aren’t going in the cells and cleaning up for them like our poor troops had to do.

"I heard shouting, like someone had a hot iron on their body, screams. The officer said they were just screaming by themselves.

I was hearing the screams throughout the visit." HA HA HA, gotta love it, they give an answer they know no one believes but they don’t give a damn…..

The witness said that even in the thieves' section prisoners were being treated badly. "Someone was shouting 'Please help us, we want the human rights officers, we want the Americans to come back'," he said.

Nice, no one has human rights there, that is something the American’s brought with them and I guess they took them with them when they left.

Prisoners interviewed in the presence of their jailers said they were frightened for their safety. They complained that chicken and milk had been cut from their rations, leaving them on rice and water. They also complained about the oppressive heat.

Lucky they get rice, and I bet they don’t get cold bottled water anymore either.

Haleem Aleulami, who was released from the jail last week, three weeks after being arrested in Ramadi for carrying a pistol in his car, said the Americans had treated him better when they ran the jail. He claimed that visits from the International Red Cross staff had dried up and accused local human rights workers of being members of Shia groups who turned a blind eye to problems in the jail.

The ICRC can kiss my A$$. They were out there in force when the US was there and there were mortar attacks all the time, they are full of crap. The ICRC lives to criticize the US, they will not do anything for those prisoners. Funny you only see them visiting locations run by the US (as far as I know) they never do anything for westerner who are being detained. I say STOP ALL US FUNDING TO THE ICRC….hell and the UN for that matter.

And Khalid Alaani, who was also picked up in Ramadi suspected of involvement in Sunni terrorism, said: "We preferred the Americans. We asked to move with them to Baghdad airport because we knew the treatment would be changed because we know what the Iraqis are. When the Americans left everything changed."

Too bad the MSM aren’t going to report this, wish the White House would bring it to light.

Staff at the jail said that the prisoners were allowed out from their cells for only 15 to 20 minutes a day because of the danger from the regular mortar attacks. They are no longer allowed access to the main hall where the Americans had allowed them to watch television and the room is now reserved for the use of officers and guards. Staff explained that the air conditioning in the cell blocks had broken, although it was working in their quarters.

They are Iraqis, they can handle the heat. When the first rotations of troops were in Iraq it was 140 degrees during the day and we had no A.C. Suck it up!

Yesterday, the International Red Cross confirmed that its visits to the prison had been suspended since January 2005 on security grounds. The frenchies are scared!


73 posted on 09/20/2006 8:16:22 AM PDT by interrogatorgirl
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