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Chuck Colson: Bankrolling Hostility -- Who Is Funding Attacks on Christians?
Breakpoint ^ | 9/8/06 | Chuck Colson

Posted on 09/10/2006 12:38:06 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: LiteKeeper

That's what others on the thread have said, I haven't had time to really research it.


41 posted on 09/10/2006 3:46:24 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: LiteKeeper

oops, "wife"


42 posted on 09/10/2006 3:50:03 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: wagglebee
One major source is the Tides Center, funded by the far-left Tides Foundation,

The one that Mama Terazzzza pumped a bundle of cash into?

43 posted on 09/10/2006 3:58:03 PM PDT by beckysueb (KOmmies are really nothing but DUmmies with better PR.)
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To: middie

That's the exact argument used for every act and agency of the Federal government. The whole POINT of the Constitution was to grant specific, limited powers to the Federal government. Therefore, the clause you cite refers to Congress's making laws to forward ONLY those activities specifically assigned to the Federal government ... not anything they can think of.


44 posted on 09/10/2006 4:01:04 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Mother of a horde: it's not just an adventure - it's a job!)
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To: LiteKeeper

LOL! I thought you were making a pun, but I couldn't figure out why it was funny :-).


45 posted on 09/10/2006 4:01:39 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Mother of a horde: it's not just an adventure - it's a job!)
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To: middie

What do you think the Tenth Amendment means? Apparently you weren't paying much mind during the Constitutional Law classes, Captain.


46 posted on 09/10/2006 4:01:43 PM PDT by dcwusmc (The government is supposed to fit the Constitution, NOT the Constitution fit the government!)
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To: wagglebee; GatorGirl; maryz; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; livius; ...

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If you want on (or off) this Catholic and Pro-Life ping list, let me know!



47 posted on 09/10/2006 4:02:15 PM PDT by narses (St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
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To: narses

Has Teresa Heinz been hitting the vodka injected raisens again?


48 posted on 09/10/2006 4:16:23 PM PDT by xtinct (I was the next door neighbor kid's imaginary friend.)
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To: razorback-bert

Yucky group of lefties.

Here is more on Fenton and the kind of dirty machinations they will pull to reach their goals:

FORTUNE Small Business) – WHAT DOES THE TERM 'PUBLIC RELATIONS' CONJURE UP in your mind?" asks David Fenton, the tall, gray-haired, blue-eyed, 51-year-old founder of Fenton Communications. We've only just shaken hands; I haven't even sat down. Before I can object--hey, I ask the questions!--he answers, "Something unethical. It means, 'Will lie, distort, say anything for money.'" He said it, not me.


more here:

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fsb/fsb_archive/2003/07/01/347318/index.htm


49 posted on 09/10/2006 4:24:05 PM PDT by eleni121 (General Draza Mihailovich: We will never forget you - the hero of World War Two)
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To: eleni121

Well, I think as many people have probably referred to SVN as the brain child of Josh Mailman, who also started, in 1981 an organization called the Threshold Foundation. The Threshold Foundation is the membership organization of primarily young inheritors, but also other people of wealth who have come together with a similar sort of commitment to progressive purposes and values and interests in sort of personal growth and interest introspection, and the common experience of having a lot of money in a society where that can be a complicated phenomenon. And Threshold Foundation is also managed by Tides.


http://www.wkkf.org/default.aspx?tabid=68&CID=275&ProjCID=275&ProjID=48&TID=664&NID=32&LanguageID=0


50 posted on 09/10/2006 5:27:44 PM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: Tax-chick
You are correct that your response is the precise discussion that takes place in every constitutional law course at length. It continues in the general society with exactly the discussion taking place here and now. And, even though the Supreme Court articulated the answer early in the existence of our country and has never waivered from the interpretation you and others dislike, the ''necessary and proper'' clause has a long and noted history in our jurisprudence.

Moreover, the law is well settled and is unassailable that Congress acts subsequently with knowledge of previous decisions of the Supreme Court. That body's failure to act to change a court decision is deemed a ratification. Thus, the interpretation you decry has become an integral part of U.S. constitutional law. Your fervent dislike of the constitutional principle expressed in that doctrine is no doubt honestly and seriously held but, that being true, it is equally non sequitur; it simply doesn't matter.

As a society with a firm foundation in law, the debate on the issue can and should be vigorious while recognizing that it is an academic discussion on a theoretical abstraction and not a sinister usurpation by any branch of government.

51 posted on 09/10/2006 5:54:12 PM PDT by middie
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To: Lurker

Please see my response to essentially the same comment as yours offered by Lurker.


52 posted on 09/10/2006 5:56:07 PM PDT by middie
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To: Lurker

Sorry, I meant TaxChick


53 posted on 09/10/2006 5:57:17 PM PDT by middie
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To: razorback-bert

Isn't John Kerry's wife a board member of the Tides Foundation?


54 posted on 09/10/2006 5:58:11 PM PDT by Lesforlife ("For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb . . ." Psalm 139:13)
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To: middie
That body's failure to act to change a court decision is deemed a ratification

It would need more than just Congress to effect the appropriate Constitutional amendment. But what politicians would do that now? This would be like foxes voting to lock the henhouse.

55 posted on 09/10/2006 5:58:23 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: dcwusmc

The Tenth Amendment is not relevant to the matter.


56 posted on 09/10/2006 5:59:16 PM PDT by middie
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To: Carry_Okie

Tides... in the laundering business. Yup.

How cute of Tides to pick such a name.

Procter and Gamble should sue that they have full rights on Tide for laundering.


57 posted on 09/10/2006 6:00:13 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Lesforlife

Should have scrolled down before posting!


58 posted on 09/10/2006 6:00:38 PM PDT by Lesforlife ("For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb . . ." Psalm 139:13)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
When Tides was first launched, Drummond Pike, the creep lawyer who founded it, claimed that its greatest asset was that the books were "squeaky clean."

Tides grew out of a need to facilitate the giving of an anonymous couple in New Mexico. They wanted to support grassroots community groups and environmental organizations, and creating Tides to channel their grants seemed expedient at the time. As other needs arose - either out of work in my day job running Shalan Foundation, or from other sources - Tides was a convenient vehicle with squeaky clean books, and an adventurous sense of possibility. Over the next five years, donors found their way to us for one reason or another and there emerged another need that we responded to: helping new programs get started.

Lovely bunch.

59 posted on 09/10/2006 6:24:47 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Angelides v. Schwarzenegger is like deciding between ebola and cancer, respectively.)
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To: TAdams8591
The hysterical claims about a theocracy are just that.

The Theonomists (threy prefer that term) are a minority on the right, but they do exist.

60 posted on 09/10/2006 6:26:21 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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