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New college program brings Saudis to U.S (or how stupid can we get?)
AP via Washington Times ^ | September 10, 2006 | Garance Burke

Posted on 09/10/2006 6:36:06 AM PDT by Elkiejg

MANHATTAN, Kan. -- Thousands of Saudi students are enrolling on college campuses across the United States this semester under a new educational exchange program brokered by President Bush and Saudi King Abdullah.

This will quintuple the number of Saudi students and scholars in the United States by the academic year's end. And big, public universities from Florida to Oregon are in a fierce competition for their tuition dollars...............

....Clark Kent Ervin, a former inspector general of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), said the U.S. government has yet to ensure proper safeguards are in place to do effective background checks on all applicants.......

"Not only are the students fully funded, but they're also paying out-of-state tuition."

Kansas State boosted efforts to court Saudi officials in the past year, flying administrators and department heads to the Saudi Embassy in Washington. It's paid off: Last month about 150 Saudi students started classes there, each funded to the tune of about $31,000......

"It's an opportunity to increase understanding of Saudi Arabia for the United States and of the United States for Saudi Arabia."

As Kansas State students enjoy a string of home football games this month, they also are preparing for the campus' first celebration of Ramadan, the Muslim holy month.

"We really want to make this special. We're going to truck in halal food from Kansas City,"

Mr. Holland said. "The Saudi government is trying to place the students in a variety of institutions across the country, but where you get the competitive advantage is how you treat the students when they get here."...........

"These 15,000 students will really jump-start education, and that will be a great addition to the kingdom," Mr. Goodman said. "At its base, it's about mutual understanding."

(Excerpt) Read more at insider.washingtontimes.com ...


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To: Old Student
A church is a place where many people go to worship god, and where some go to be seen and heard. So is a mosque. So is a synagogue

But it does not make church into a mosque or mosque into a synagogue.

81 posted on 09/10/2006 3:12:44 PM PDT by A. Pole (Russian proverb: "All are not cooks that walk with long knives")
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To: Old Student; A. Pole
The mosque anywhere in Saudi is the ONLY PLACE where you can have a group religious ceremony or gathering. At the same time the only religious practices authorized in mosques in Saudi are those of the official Wahabi sect of Moslems.

Seems pretty simple to me ~ very straight forward ~ one church, one state, one people, one king ~ Louis XIV did it that way.

I think somebody does not care to use "church" in the sense of "a religious group and/or building where religious practices are observed" ~ on the other hand I regularly use the word "church" RELIGIOUSLY to displace mosque, synagogue, temple and tabernacle in my own speech.

If others take offense, they are free to go pound sand if they wish.

82 posted on 09/10/2006 3:15:41 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

The fact is that in Saudi Arabia there is ZERO churches (or synagogues) open. And there are many mosques open in USA.


83 posted on 09/10/2006 3:20:37 PM PDT by A. Pole (Russian proverb: "All are not cooks that walk with long knives")
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To: Elkiejg
"...are we asking for the next 9/11 from within?"

just bump.

84 posted on 09/10/2006 3:21:49 PM PDT by Jason_b
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To: A. Pole
Let's put it this way, there are thousands of churches in Saudi and the US. They are different brands here. They are one brand there.

The Wahabi enforce their standing in Saudi.

Best bet for not having to put up with Saudi religious BS is to not go there.

BTW, even if Islam did not dominate Saudi, culturally those folks still wouldn't put up with religious practices like we do in America.

85 posted on 09/10/2006 3:25:29 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Elkiejg
a new educational exchange program brokered by President Bush and Saudi King Abdullah

Poor President Bush. It must hurt to be that painfully stupid.

86 posted on 09/10/2006 3:39:43 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Pornography kills.)
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To: bert

Just out of curiosity, are you aware of the nationality of sixteen of the nineteen 9/11 hijackers? Or the homeland of the VERY extremist wahabbi sect of that immoral, false religion called islam?








































Hint: the answer to both questions is the same.
































































Answer: Saudi Arabia. 'Nuff said. They are NOT our friends. Allowing their students to come here is sheer idiocy.


87 posted on 09/10/2006 4:41:11 PM PDT by dcwusmc (The government is supposed to fit the Constitution, NOT the Constitution fit the government!)
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To: Elkiejg

After "Black Hawk Down" this country started bringing in Somalis also. The terrorists must me rolling with laughter.


88 posted on 09/10/2006 4:42:34 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: bert
You can claim anything you want...

I claim that I have found out as much as I can stand about the Saudis on 911. They are muslim tyrants and bitter enemies of America. They want our money...nothing more. They are sending their young people to our universities in order to "know their enemy"..only to find out the easiest way kill us all without losing too many Saudis.

You have to face facts, my man...you are defending a bunch of people that would as soon cut your head off as look at you.

The "Saudis that matter" just now, may not be "the Saudis that matter" tomorrow. Islamic regiems have changed over night in the past...and Saudi Arabia is infested with muslims...and I am sure some lunatic imams that can get the real power stirred up over night...the huddled masses.

89 posted on 09/10/2006 4:56:05 PM PDT by B.O. Plenty
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To: dcwusmc
So, Osama picked nothing but Saudi members of AlQaida just so he could elicit support here for the US to attack Saudi Arabia.

He could have picked nothing but members from the United Kingdom.

Do not allow yourself to be manipulated by AlQaida.

90 posted on 09/10/2006 6:46:12 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: bert

It only took 19 muslims to create 9/11. Who knows how many more will react after the next 50 Cent and Ludacris Rap songs hit the air waves? One or two more Jerry Springer shows may be all it takes to send them over the edge . . . .


91 posted on 09/10/2006 8:42:38 PM PDT by Howard Jarvis Admirer (Howard Jarvis, the foe of the tax collector and friend of the California homeowner)
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To: muawiyah

Whatever. The fact remains that the vast majority of the hate-spewing islamic "schools" around the world AND in this country are funded by Saudi money and teach the wahabi-ist line of bullcaca about that evil cult of death.


92 posted on 09/10/2006 10:21:00 PM PDT by dcwusmc (The government is supposed to fit the Constitution, NOT the Constitution fit the government!)
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To: muawiyah
The mosque anywhere in Saudi is the ONLY PLACE where you can have a group religious ceremony or gathering. At the same time the only religious practices authorized in mosques in Saudi are those of the official Wahabi sect of Moslems. Seems pretty simple to me ~ very straight forward ~ one church, one state, one people, one king ~ Louis XIV did it that way.

The mosque is not something like the church. And it does not need Louis XIV to rule. It already includes key elements of state laws, of political organization, and of a nation.

So while you can try to separate churches from state because churches in their own nature have concept of dual citizenship in Kingdom of Heaven, the mosque started as the conquest and political coup.

93 posted on 09/11/2006 3:58:12 AM PDT by A. Pole (Russian proverb: "All are not cooks that walk with long knives")
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To: A. Pole

That's what I told you. But the differnce between the sort of rule Louis XIV demanded and what they do today in Saudi Arabia is miniscule ~ comes in the spelling of the words ~ pretty minor stuff.


94 posted on 09/11/2006 4:04:38 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
But the difference between the sort of rule Louis XIV demanded and what they do today in Saudi Arabia is minuscule

The rule of Louis XIV was a gold age of France with flowering of culture, with the improvements in every aspect of life. France of his time made HUGE contributions to the Western culture and whole world.

Comparing the Saudi countless princes to the The Sun King is does not do them any favor.

95 posted on 09/11/2006 4:31:23 AM PDT by A. Pole (Russian proverb: "All are not cooks that walk with long knives")
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To: A. Pole

Louis XIV was a tyrant of the worst sort. France began its descent into the Pit with his reign and it's never recovered. There were no cultural advances made during his reign and he set back the cause of religious freedom centuries.


96 posted on 09/11/2006 5:24:14 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Louis XIV was a tyrant of the worst sort.

Really?

There were no cultural advances made during his reign

Just read about French literature of his time. And there WERE great advances in other areas as well.

97 posted on 09/11/2006 6:05:25 AM PDT by A. Pole (Russian proverb: "All are not cooks that walk with long knives")
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To: A. Pole

When Louis XIV rescinded the Edict of Nantes, France went to Hell in a handbasket ~ it's still there.


98 posted on 09/11/2006 6:07:26 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
When Louis XIV rescinded the Edict of Nantes, France went to Hell in a handbasket ~ it's still there.

He was in the norm of his time. For example England was not any better or perhaps worse. It took more than HUNDRED years (from Edict of Nantes rescindment) before "Catholic Relief Act" allowed Catholics to even own property or inherit land in England. Even this Relief Act did not help much as it triggered pogroms against Catholics.

99 posted on 09/11/2006 6:26:05 AM PDT by A. Pole (Russian proverb: "All are not cooks that walk with long knives")
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To: A. Pole

Alas, Louis XIV outdid everybody else. He issued his Dragonettes Orders. Under them, if you didn't attend Louis church of choice French troops would be quartered in private homes. While there they were free to eat the food, sleep in the beds, sit on the furniture, steal the jewels and rape the women and girls in the household.

A protesting man could be murdered with no recourse.

Hundreds of thousands of Protestants fled France as a consequence. Hundreds of thousands of others were murdered.

The English don't hold a candle to this. After all, they didn't run a tyranny and even had pretensions of having an open and free society.

Louis was pretentious, but not about how to oppress and kill.

He set the tone for France for an age.


100 posted on 09/11/2006 6:34:53 AM PDT by muawiyah
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