Posted on 09/10/2006 6:36:06 AM PDT by Elkiejg
But it does not make church into a mosque or mosque into a synagogue.
Seems pretty simple to me ~ very straight forward ~ one church, one state, one people, one king ~ Louis XIV did it that way.
I think somebody does not care to use "church" in the sense of "a religious group and/or building where religious practices are observed" ~ on the other hand I regularly use the word "church" RELIGIOUSLY to displace mosque, synagogue, temple and tabernacle in my own speech.
If others take offense, they are free to go pound sand if they wish.
The fact is that in Saudi Arabia there is ZERO churches (or synagogues) open. And there are many mosques open in USA.
just bump.
The Wahabi enforce their standing in Saudi.
Best bet for not having to put up with Saudi religious BS is to not go there.
BTW, even if Islam did not dominate Saudi, culturally those folks still wouldn't put up with religious practices like we do in America.
Poor President Bush. It must hurt to be that painfully stupid.
Just out of curiosity, are you aware of the nationality of sixteen of the nineteen 9/11 hijackers? Or the homeland of the VERY extremist wahabbi sect of that immoral, false religion called islam?
Hint: the answer to both questions is the same.
Answer: Saudi Arabia. 'Nuff said. They are NOT our friends. Allowing their students to come here is sheer idiocy.
After "Black Hawk Down" this country started bringing in Somalis also. The terrorists must me rolling with laughter.
I claim that I have found out as much as I can stand about the Saudis on 911. They are muslim tyrants and bitter enemies of America. They want our money...nothing more. They are sending their young people to our universities in order to "know their enemy"..only to find out the easiest way kill us all without losing too many Saudis.
You have to face facts, my man...you are defending a bunch of people that would as soon cut your head off as look at you.
The "Saudis that matter" just now, may not be "the Saudis that matter" tomorrow. Islamic regiems have changed over night in the past...and Saudi Arabia is infested with muslims...and I am sure some lunatic imams that can get the real power stirred up over night...the huddled masses.
He could have picked nothing but members from the United Kingdom.
Do not allow yourself to be manipulated by AlQaida.
It only took 19 muslims to create 9/11. Who knows how many more will react after the next 50 Cent and Ludacris Rap songs hit the air waves? One or two more Jerry Springer shows may be all it takes to send them over the edge . . . .
Whatever. The fact remains that the vast majority of the hate-spewing islamic "schools" around the world AND in this country are funded by Saudi money and teach the wahabi-ist line of bullcaca about that evil cult of death.
The mosque is not something like the church. And it does not need Louis XIV to rule. It already includes key elements of state laws, of political organization, and of a nation.
So while you can try to separate churches from state because churches in their own nature have concept of dual citizenship in Kingdom of Heaven, the mosque started as the conquest and political coup.
That's what I told you. But the differnce between the sort of rule Louis XIV demanded and what they do today in Saudi Arabia is miniscule ~ comes in the spelling of the words ~ pretty minor stuff.
The rule of Louis XIV was a gold age of France with flowering of culture, with the improvements in every aspect of life. France of his time made HUGE contributions to the Western culture and whole world.
Comparing the Saudi countless princes to the The Sun King is does not do them any favor.
Louis XIV was a tyrant of the worst sort. France began its descent into the Pit with his reign and it's never recovered. There were no cultural advances made during his reign and he set back the cause of religious freedom centuries.
Really?
There were no cultural advances made during his reign
Just read about French literature of his time. And there WERE great advances in other areas as well.
When Louis XIV rescinded the Edict of Nantes, France went to Hell in a handbasket ~ it's still there.
He was in the norm of his time. For example England was not any better or perhaps worse. It took more than HUNDRED years (from Edict of Nantes rescindment) before "Catholic Relief Act" allowed Catholics to even own property or inherit land in England. Even this Relief Act did not help much as it triggered pogroms against Catholics.
Alas, Louis XIV outdid everybody else. He issued his Dragonettes Orders. Under them, if you didn't attend Louis church of choice French troops would be quartered in private homes. While there they were free to eat the food, sleep in the beds, sit on the furniture, steal the jewels and rape the women and girls in the household.
A protesting man could be murdered with no recourse.
Hundreds of thousands of Protestants fled France as a consequence. Hundreds of thousands of others were murdered.
The English don't hold a candle to this. After all, they didn't run a tyranny and even had pretensions of having an open and free society.
Louis was pretentious, but not about how to oppress and kill.
He set the tone for France for an age.
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