[Gaffer]

..The cost of Medicare will be subsidized by the government for people with low incomes. If you look at it that way, there's no issue. If you reverse the context then it sounds more like a "tax the rich" scheme....

What is the difference in the 'government' subsidizing the LIEs (low income earners) and the high income earners who won't be eligible for the benefit under means testing? They are actually one in the same. Go take a look at what income groups pay the lion's share of taxes and you'll see the LIEs HARDLY even dent their fair share of taxes due.

[ClaireSolt]

If you don't like the idea of government subsidizing this, then how can you argue they should continue to subsidize it for the richest? The only way out is probably gradual, as many depend on it now because that's the way things are.

[free_at_jsl.com]

"What is the difference in the 'government' subsidizing the LIEs (low income earners) and the high income earners who won't be eligible for the benefit under means testing? They are actually one in the same. Go take a look at what income groups pay the lion's share of taxes and you'll see the LIEs HARDLY even dent their fair share of taxes due."

Yes, we all know this. When I say "subsidized by the government", of course I mean all the taxpayers. Our government is not purely capitalistic. There are some socialistic elements. What the proper balance is, is open to debate. I have paid quite a lot into Social Security and Medicare. I would count myself lucky if I got 5% of it back.