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To: T.L.Sink
No, I'm a conservative but I'm facing reality - as is George Bush who also wants to reform entitlements and make them more competitive and effective.

First, it simply isn't conservative to state that wealth transfer is a desirable state. You might be "Republican", but if you believe in means testing you are most certainly not conservative. WRT effectiveness, you're wrong yet again. This particular program may last longer, but when the overall economic impact is measured policies such as the one you support will only damage society. It is most decidedly not "effective" in any sense of the word.

If you're wasting your time fighting yesterday's battle that in 1935 FDR was wrong to establish SS -- have fun on the lunatic fringe!

Could you point me to where I stated that I'm fighting that battle? If not, I'd point out that setting up a strawman argument will only discredit your position.

27 posted on 09/09/2006 7:01:55 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: NittanyLion

There is no point in trying to argue with a Loonie Lefty.

The moonbats can't really "argue" anything.


30 posted on 09/09/2006 7:04:02 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (the war on poverty should include health club memberships for the morbidly poor)
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To: NittanyLion

As Adam Smith said long ago - wealth is constantly transfered. I don't think government should be the primary agent here but some of that in our society is unavoidable.

And, yes, means testing is very conservative. It's one of the chief components of the successful welfare reform of 1996.

What's liberal/socialist is all pay the same and all get the same regardless of means or circumstance. One size fits all.


42 posted on 09/09/2006 7:24:03 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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