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Tortured screams ring out as Iraqis take over Abu Ghraib ["The Americans were better...]
The Sunday Telegraph (UK) ^ | 9/10/06 | Ali Saber and Gethin Chamberlain

Posted on 09/09/2006 5:33:23 PM PDT by saquin

The notorious Abu Ghraib prison in Baghdad is at the centre of fresh abuse allegations just a week after it was handed over to Iraqi authorities, with claims that inmates are being tortured by their new captors.

Inside the 100-yard long cell block the smell of excrement was overpowering. Four to six prisoners shared each of the 12ft by 15ft cells along either side and the walls were smeared with filth. The cell block was patrolled by guards who carried long batons and shouted angrily at the prisoners to stand up.

Access to the part of the prison containing terrorism suspects was denied, but from that block came the sound of screaming. The screaming continued for a long time.

"I am sure someone was being beaten, they were screaming like they were being hit," the witness reported. "I felt scared, I was asking what was happening in the terrorist section.

"I heard shouting, like someone had a hot iron on their body, screams. The officer said they were just screaming by themselves. I was hearing the screams throughout the visit."

The witness said that even in the thieves' section prisoners were being treated badly. "Someone was shouting 'Please help us, we want the human rights officers, we want the Americans to come back'," he said.

Prisoners interviewed in the presence of their jailers said they were frightened for their safety. They complained that chicken and milk had been cut from their rations, leaving them on rice and water. They also complained about the oppressive heat.

Outside the prison, relatives of some of the inmates said they were being tortured by their captors. One woman, who gave her name as Omsaad, said: "My son Saad [who was arrested in Fallujah as a suspected insurgent] said he is being tortured by the Iraqis to confess the name of his leader. I met my son and he told me they were being treated badly by the Iraqis."

Haleem Aleulami, who was released from the jail last week, three weeks after being arrested in Ramadi for carrying a pistol in his car, said the Americans had treated him better when they ran the jail. He claimed that visits from the International Red Cross staff had dried up and accused local human rights workers of being members of Shia groups who turned a blind eye to problems in the jail.

"The people are Iraqis and they are members of the Sciri and al Dawa parties. They have a good relationship with the leaders of the jail and they keep quiet," he said. The guards swore at the ordinary prisoners, he said, but those in the terrorist section were treated more brutally.

"The guards were swearing at us, but in the terrorist section they were beating them. I heard it all the time. Everyone knows what is happening."

And Khalid Alaani, who was also picked up in Ramadi suspected of involvement in Sunni terrorism, said: "We preferred the Americans. We asked to move with them to Baghdad airport because we knew the treatment would be changed because we know what the Iraqis are. When the Americans left everything changed."

Staff at the jail said that the prisoners were allowed out from their cells for only 15 to 20 minutes a day because of the danger from the regular mortar attacks. They are no longer allowed access to the main hall where the Americans had allowed them to watch television and the room is now reserved for the use of officers and guards. Staff explained that the air conditioning in the cell blocks had broken, although it was working in their quarters.

One officer, Capt Ali Abdelzaher, said: "We have a problem with the financing for the food, not like the Americans, and there is a technical problem with the air conditioning."

Capt Abdelzaher also confirmed that a number of inmates had been transferred from the Jadriyah detention centre, along with their guards and interrogators.

Graphic stories of abuse at that previously secret facility emerged after US soldiers found 169 prisoners showing signs of torture last November.

Most of the prisoners held by the Americans at Abu Ghraib were either released in recent months or transferred to a new £32 million detention centre at Camp Cropper near Baghdad International Airport.

Yesterday, the International Red Cross confirmed that its visits to the prison had been suspended since January 2005 on security grounds.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abughraib; bleedinghearattack; gwot; iraq; nuketheleft; schadenfreude; waronterror; wot
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To: saquin

I guess the panties on the head are no longer an issue for them.


121 posted on 09/10/2006 7:31:41 AM PDT by Vision ("As a man thinks...so is he." Proverbs 23:7)
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To: saquin

Has the American MSM covered this yet? Where's the New York Times on this story? AWOL? Bet on it.


122 posted on 09/10/2006 7:33:09 AM PDT by GOPJ (Note to MSM - when dems say "jump", you don't have to ask "how high".)
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To: tet68
Interesting how these prisoners keep referring to the
"Iraqis" as though they (the prisoners) were perhaps not from Iraq?

That struck me as odd too.

And Khalid Alaani, who was also picked up in Ramadi suspected of involvement in Sunni terrorism, said: We preferred the Americans. We asked to move with them to Baghdad airport because we knew the treatment would be changed because we know what the Iraqis are. (emphasis changed)

Khalid Alaani is not an Iraqi.

123 posted on 09/10/2006 7:50:33 AM PDT by ChessExpert (Who hijacked the Religion of Peace? Mohamed)
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To: TN4Liberty

Tortured or not this kind of story might put a little fear into the terrorists. I know they would never willingly help the coalition but in their Blair and Bush bashing they might unwittingly do so. And if it was the prisoners themselves trying to create propaganda it might work a little differently than they planned.


124 posted on 09/10/2006 8:00:31 AM PDT by tiki
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To: saquin
What? The prisoners want the Great Satan; the Crusaders; the Kafirs; Infidels; the Unclean Westerners back????

Perhaps, they'd like Saddam and his henchmen back, too?

The Americans are evil and inconsiderate of Islam and Allah....how can they want us back!

Impossible!

Sheesh.....

125 posted on 09/10/2006 8:22:17 AM PDT by Thumper1960 (Politicians are like diapers. They need changed often, and for the same reasons.)
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To: tkathy
"Do muslims have any idea whatsoever about what total and utter barbarians they are???"

Does a psychopath know he's a psychopath?

Does a Demoncrat Senator know (s)he's an idiot?

126 posted on 09/10/2006 8:26:22 AM PDT by Thumper1960 (Politicians are like diapers. They need changed often, and for the same reasons.)
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To: saquin

Prisoner Achmed was overhead to say: "Ah you silly Americaners. We were only joking. Please come back. Panties weren' so bad. Please, please come back!"


127 posted on 09/10/2006 8:35:57 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: saquin

I bet half or more of those Abu Ghraib prisoners would now volunteer to serve their time in Gitmo, too.

Gitmo prisoners get 3 meals a day, air conditioning, all the Korans they can flush. Yeh, life's tough (for prisoners) in Gitmo.


128 posted on 09/10/2006 8:38:33 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: saquin

This is news? That the Americans ran the prison more humanely than the Iraqis? Who'd a thunk it?


129 posted on 09/10/2006 8:39:43 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
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To: saquin

130 posted on 09/10/2006 8:42:56 AM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 83-87)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Where's the link to your smiley collection? I gotta get me some o'them!


131 posted on 09/10/2006 8:46:55 AM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 83-87)
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To: saquin

On second thought, we'll take the naked dog piles and the panties on our heads.


132 posted on 09/10/2006 9:00:00 AM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: TN4Liberty

If you have ever heard the difference in a scream from pain and a yell, you would know what is happening with four walls between you and the victim.

Victim may be the wrong choice of words here.


133 posted on 09/10/2006 9:14:08 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Illegal immigration Control and US Border Security - The jobs George W. Bush refuses to do.)
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To: saquin; Famishus

I can't stop laughing!!!! Tears are rolling down my face!!! I called everyone I know and crowed about the article. I am infused with a great sense of satisfaction!
hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe


134 posted on 09/10/2006 10:06:00 AM PDT by mother22wife21
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To: saquin

So.


135 posted on 09/10/2006 10:09:16 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: saquin
...the walls were smeared with filth.

Maybe they shouldn't smear filth on the walls.

136 posted on 09/10/2006 10:17:51 AM PDT by MontanaBeth (Never under estimate the enemy.)
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To: saquin

This srves those MURDERING A**HOLES RIGHT!Now we can close down Club Gitmo and hand that bunch of MURDERING A**HOLES to Abu Graib's new caretakers!!I'd better get my ElRushbo/Club Gitmo stuff while the getting is good!!!


137 posted on 09/10/2006 10:25:28 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: saquin

Oh well.

Maybe you should have appreciated us better when we were there and not had your emissaries spreading lies about us.

The Iraqi's can do whatever they want with you far as I'm concerned.


138 posted on 09/10/2006 10:26:37 AM PDT by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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To: saquin
"Please help us, we want the human rights officers, we want the Americans to come back!"

Oh, heavens no!

We might put panties on their heads!

139 posted on 09/10/2006 10:27:48 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is a perversion of faith, a lie against human spirit, an obscenity shouted in the face of G_d)
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To: WOSG

El Rushbo correctly characterized the "mistreatment"suffered by these MURDERING A**HOLES at the hands of a few "fun-loving"Americans as nothing more than"Hi Jinx"!Will the MSM now "get it right"???Don't hold your breath!!


140 posted on 09/10/2006 10:29:18 AM PDT by bandleader
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