Posted on 09/08/2006 9:53:25 AM PDT by concernedAmerican1
If someone attacked your mother, would you be upset? Would you protest? I’m sure you would.
Well, the Mother of God is grossly insulted by the University of Virginia’s student newspaper, The Cavalier Daily, which printed a Nativity-like cartoon of Our Lady holding the Infant Jesus beside Saint Joseph on August 24.
The figure depicting Saint Joseph says: "Mary…I don't mean to ruin this special moment, but how did you get that bumpy rash?” suggesting a sexually transmitted disease. To which a Mary-figure says, “I swear, it was Immaculately Transmitted.”
This is outrageous public blasphemy! Click here to protest now.
To read more:
http://tfp.org/student_action/activities/protests/uva_blasphemy.htm
"The vast majority of Catholics only have agreed on the "Mother of God" issue since AD 431.
That's news to the world's Orthodox, Lutherans, and Anglicans."
Most sane people know that Anglicans and Lutherans do not venerate Mary.
"the Adamic body of Jesus, which died forever"
You have heard of Easter, haven't you?
Where did you get the idea that Jesus has a body without blood?
How do you square that with the teaching from the Torah:
Deuteronomy 12:23
Only be sure that thou eat not the blood: for the blood is the life; and thou mayest not eat the life with the flesh.
According to the Bible, if the blood is the life of the flesh, and you contend Jesus now inhabits a body with no blood, He must be dead.
SD
"the Adamic body of Jesus, which died forever,"
"Are you actually saying that Jesus "died forever"?"
You didn't read what I said, but what you thought I said.
Did you forget the fact that He ate with his disciples after His Resurrection? Why would He need to do that if there was no blood to deliver the nutrients to His cells. Also, does a Heavenly body defecate? I only ask because, if you believe it does not, Jesus performed another miracle in the sublimation of the food He ate.
As for the issues you mention, the fact that prayer beads exist outside of Christianity doesn't mean it's a "pagan" practice." Prayer exists outside of Christianity. Is prayer pagan? The title "Holy Father" is a debatable one, but if what you mean the tradition of the Church by "the word of man," then there are lot of beliefs and rituals, in all branches of Christianity, that can be considered "extra-biblical," and therefore, "heretical" in your view.
Maybe so, maybe no. Regardless, they accept the orthodox teaching that Mary is the Mother of God.
Which was the point.
SD
SD
That's what's so comical about this conversation... God is God of the reality He created. He isn't playing with smoke and mirrors. The Gnostics are the primary ones who try to look "through" His creation to see the "hidden truths". The reality is right in our faces.
"Did you forget the fact that He ate with his disciples after His Resurrection? Why would He need to do that if there was no blood to deliver the nutrients to His cells. Also, does a Heavenly body defecate? I only ask because, if you believe it does not, Jesus performed another miracle in the sublimation of the food He ate."
Exactly. He proved to the disciples that he was ALIVE and not simply a spiritual form. When they first saw Jesus in the upper room they believed him to be a ghost so he proved that he was once again flesh and blood, but also more than that. If he was simply some ghostly, bloodless apparition then he would not have fulfilled arising from the dead.
"Did you forget the fact that He ate with his disciples after His Resurrection? Why would He need to do that if there was no blood to deliver the nutrients to His cells. Also, does a Heavenly body defecate? I only ask because, if you believe it does not, Jesus performed another miracle in the sublimation of the food He ate."
Heavenly bodied beings are able to eat but do not need to. I doubt that there is any need to defecate. But I don't know.
""the Adamic body of Jesus, which died forever"
You have heard of Easter, haven't you?"
You're not listening.
"He resurrected with a body of flesh and bones, but not blood.
Where did you get the idea that Jesus has a body without blood?"
"Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have." - Luke 24:39
"You're not listening."
I keep hearing someone blathering on about things up that are totally opposite to the words of Jesus through his disciples. Hosepipe could probably relate, though.
"And you didn't answer where Jesus' "dead Adamic body" was when they opened up His Tomb on Easter."
It was transformed into heavenly body.
"How do you square that with the teaching from the Torah:
Deuteronomy 12:23
Only be sure that thou eat not the blood: for the blood is the life; and thou mayest not eat the life with the flesh."
Earthly life is in the blood. Think Heavenly. That's what Jesus was constantly turning peoples' attention toward.
Then it's hardly "dead" now is it?
Do you believe caterpillars die when they transform in to butterflys?
SD
"blathering on about things up"? Huh?
"It was transformed into heavenly body.
Then it's hardly "dead" now is it?
Do you believe caterpillars die when they transform in to butterflys?
SD"
Now you're splitting angels on the head of a pin. (How's that for a mixed metaphor?)
"Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have." - Luke 24:39
Are you arguing that "flesh and bones" is meant to be an exhaustive list? I guess Jesus had no hair or internal organs, since they are not listed.
This is puerile.
SD
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