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Tank system may be ready in months
Jerusalem Post ^ | 9/7/6 | YAAKOV KATZ

Posted on 09/07/2006 3:25:34 PM PDT by SmithL

A tank missile defense system, developed by the Rafael Armament Development Authority will be ready for installation on IDF tanks in "several months" if the Treasury decides to fund the purchase of the system, The Jerusalem Post has learned.

In addition, Rafael is currently hoping to gain from a Senate decision ordering US Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld to bring outside experts to assess the need for and use of tank defense systems for the US Army. The order from the Senate came following an NBC in-depth investigation into why the US Army had decided to purchase Raytheon's active protection system, which would only be ready in five years while the Trophy was already operational and ready to be purchased.

NBC claimed that there was too close an alliance between the US Army and Raytheon and that Raytheon staff were members of an Army team that had rejected the Trophy.

Rafael's Business Development Manager Didi Benyoash said Thursday that the Israeli defense company was conducting "advanced negotiations" with the Pentagon over the purchase of several models of the system to be used in trials on armored vehicles operating in Iraq.

"We will be ready to supply the system in a number of months if we receive orders to from Israel or the US Army," Benyoash said. In March, Rafael conducted a successful experiment of the Trophy for the US Army in Israel. "The war in Lebanon proved that active-protection systems are the only real way today to protect tanks," he added.

While Rafael was hoping to gain from the Senate's decision, Benyoash claimed that the Israeli defense company had "absolutely nothing" to do with the NBC report that exposed the close and possibly illegitimate relationship between Raytheon and the US Army.

The Trophy system creates a hemispheric protected zone around armored vehicles such as the Merkava tank, which operated prominently in Lebanon. The system is designed to detect and track a threat and counters it with a launched projectile that intercepts the anti-tank missile.

The IDF has asked the Treasury for a budget boost following the war in Lebanon amounting to NIS 10 billion. A part of the money, a high-ranking officer said, would be allocated to install active protection systems like the Trophy on IDF tanks.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; tank; tankprotection

Trophy tank defense system in action

1 posted on 09/07/2006 3:25:36 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

I am thinking that a chain-link fence on posts welded around the tank would work, too.

Basically, any RPG/tank missle that hit it would explode harmlessly when it hit the "fence."

K.I.S.S.


2 posted on 09/07/2006 3:43:16 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: MeanWestTexan
I am thinking that a chain-link fence on posts welded around the tank would work, too.

Basically, any RPG/tank missle that hit it would explode harmlessly when it hit the "fence."

More modern missile warheads won't be defeated by such a system, which is essentially what the Stryker uses already.

K.I.S.S.

Except when the threat doesn't cooperate, then you have to get sneaky.

3 posted on 09/07/2006 3:48:31 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: SmithL

Well, I could be wrong, but according to sites like www.defensetech.org, part of the problem could be that how's the system to distinguish between an RPG and a kid throwing a rock? It could very well simply be overwhelming support for the U.S. military industry, but given the DOD's actions in the past, I don't think this can be said without question.


4 posted on 09/07/2006 3:51:04 PM PDT by Constantine XI Palaeologus ("Vicisti, Galilaee")
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To: El Gato

Yeah:

http://www.fototime.com/08EDB8A9060A751/orig.jpg

I am not at all certain that the missles Hez-ebola is using qualify as "more modern missles warheads."

I suspect not.

Regardless, the high tech and low tech together would be my choice.


5 posted on 09/07/2006 3:51:54 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Koranshredder 2000.


6 posted on 09/07/2006 3:54:38 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Somebody important make....THE CALL!)
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To: MeanWestTexan

"I am thinking that a chain-link fence on posts welded around the tank would work, too.

Basically, any RPG/tank missle that hit it would explode harmlessly when it hit the "fence."

K.I.S.S."

It might work once, perhaps . . .


7 posted on 09/07/2006 3:59:09 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: MeanWestTexan
That's exactly what they did to the Stryker ICVs in Iraq.


8 posted on 09/07/2006 4:05:57 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: SmithL

You need a really fast flyswatter.


9 posted on 09/07/2006 7:30:13 PM PDT by NicknamedBob (If the "enemy of your enemy" is Ghengis Khan, Ghengis Khan is not your friend.)
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To: Yo-Yo

Yeah, check out my post 5 for my inspiration photo.


10 posted on 09/07/2006 7:44:26 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: Constantine XI Palaeologus
how's the system to distinguish between an RPG and a kid throwing a rock?

If the kid can pitch a rock at 300 to 600 miles an hour he wouldn't be throwing rocks at tanks he would be in MLB.

11 posted on 09/07/2006 7:47:55 PM PDT by Joe Miner
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To: Constantine XI Palaeologus
how's the system to distinguish between an RPG and a kid throwing a rock?

If the kid is throwing a rock, then he is a hostile that needs to be taken out anyway before he acquires an RPG.

12 posted on 09/08/2006 10:31:19 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Afghan protest - "Death to Dog Washers!")
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To: MeanWestTexan

Do you work for Raytheon?


13 posted on 09/08/2006 10:34:53 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

No, why?


14 posted on 09/08/2006 12:05:08 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: MeanWestTexan
You are correct. Strykers use slat "armor".


15 posted on 09/08/2006 12:08:04 PM PDT by Toby06
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Just that proposed an alternative to the Raphel Trophy system.

BTW, if no one has said it yet, vehicles already have stand off gratings to pre-detonate rpgs.


16 posted on 09/08/2006 12:10:15 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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