[smaug6]

I hope you are right. That sick old F$#K. I come from nothing financially. Both my granddads kicked in to help raise us cause my dad was such a sh!t. They didn't really have much at all but really kept us afloat all the time. I have three daughters myself and I save and plan for the future and I'm doing okay. They and theirs will get most of what I amass. Any SOB that doesn't look out for his own is a sorry piece of crap.(end of story.) Yeah that means you Warren Buffett.

[Bonaparte]

I can certainly understand your point of view concerning a father's or grandfather's financial assistance to offspring. That said, my father, who also came from nothing and built his own wealth, contributed nothing to my support and education following my 18th year. He believed it would weaken me to not do for myself. I never held that against him and have always loved him. I believe a parent's only primary obligation to children is to feed, clothe, house and protect them until they reach maturity. All else, IMO, is optional.