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President to speak at 1:45 p.m. (Re: Prisoners in CIA prisons)
National Review ^ | 09.06.2006 | National Review

Posted on 09/06/2006 8:35:48 AM PDT by July 4th

Edited on 09/06/2006 9:26:59 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: fairtrader

Look, this is a live thread - there are somewhat stricter rules on content. For instance, I couldn't post a 1MB picture of Danica Patrick . I probably could, on a racing thread. That's NOT censorship.


261 posted on 09/06/2006 10:19:46 AM PDT by Warren_Piece (Smart is easy. Good is hard.)
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To: AppyPappy

Someone's bringing a keg?


262 posted on 09/06/2006 10:20:09 AM PDT by eyespysomething
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To: RobFromGa

KSM, Zubayda and Bin AlSheeb - those are the three "big ones".

why send them to Gitmo, when we already know that the federal courts have extended their reach to that locale, granted habeas rights, lawyers, etc? I am confused, if what is being reported currently is how it plays out.


263 posted on 09/06/2006 10:20:16 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: AppyPappy

We had to..it was in the country's best interests.


264 posted on 09/06/2006 10:20:24 AM PDT by samadams2000 (Somebody important make....THE CALL!)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
I do too.

Which is why I'm still here and not at the Fitness Center where I'm supposed to be right now. ;)

265 posted on 09/06/2006 10:20:24 AM PDT by ohioWfan (George W. Bush - "Take his character all together, and we shall not look upon his like again.")
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To: No Blue States

LOL JimRob ROCKS.


266 posted on 09/06/2006 10:20:25 AM PDT by kimmie7 (Liberals embrace the sin......Christians embrace the sinner.)
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To: tiredoflaundry

President Bush has decided to transfer 14 key terrorist leaders from secret CIA custody to the U.S. military-run prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to be prepared for eventual trials, a senior administration official said Wednesday.


The high-value suspected terrorists include Khalid Sheik Mohammed, believed to be the No. 3 al-Qaida leader before he was captured in Pakistan in 2003; Ramzi Binalshibh, an alleged would-be Sept. 11, 2001, hijacker; and Abu Zubaydah, who was believed to be a link between Osama bin Laden and many al-Qaida cells before he was also captured in Pakistan, in March 2002.


Bush was announcing the move in a speech from the White House, with families of those killed in the 2001 attacks in attendance.


The president will also announce a hard line Wednesday on trying terror suspects through military tribunals. His new proposal, to be sent to Congress, would withhold evidence from a defendant if necessary to protect classified information.


"One of the most important tasks is for Congress to recognize that we need the tools necessary to win this war on terror and we'll continue to discuss with Congress ways to make sure that this nation is capable of defending herself," Bush said after a Cabinet meeting.


Senate leaders were briefed on the legislative plan Tuesday night. It already has met resistance from lawmakers who say it would set a dangerous precedent.


Sen. John Warner, chairman of the Armed Services Committee, and Sens. John McCain and Lindsey Graham have drafted a rival proposal. It would guarantee certain legal rights to defendants, including access to all evidence used against them.


In both military and civilian courts, a defendant's right to see evidence is viewed as indispensable to mounting an adequate defense.


"I think it's important that we stand by 200 years of legal precedents concerning classified information because the defendant should have a right to know what evidence is being used," said McCain, R-Ariz.


Another potential point of conflict is whether coerced testimony should be admissible. Administration officials have said allowing coerced testimony in some cases may be necessary, but McCain said the committee bill would ban it entirely.


The White House asked television networks for live coverage of Bush's announcement later Wednesday.


267 posted on 09/06/2006 10:21:00 AM PDT by RobFromGa (The FairTax cult is like Scientology, but without the movie stars)
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To: pollyannaish

Yeah, me too ;-)


268 posted on 09/06/2006 10:21:02 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Don't mix alcopops and ufo's)
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To: samadams2000
To use a quote from Dances with Wolves.......

"Good trade."

269 posted on 09/06/2006 10:21:20 AM PDT by ohioWfan (George W. Bush - "Take his character all together, and we shall not look upon his like again.")
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To: oceanview
"why send them to gitmo"

Perhaps the President intends to announce that he will not respect the decisions of the courts regarding these non-government combatants. He's doing it "for the survivors".

270 posted on 09/06/2006 10:22:10 AM PDT by Mariner
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To: RobFromGa; MNJohnnie
Check this out! Those darned "pro war Democrats" at it again.

Warning: This link is to the World Socialist Web Site. It ain't pretty, but it is kinda funny. And it does give us an idea of how Harry Reid and friends' stunt played to the far left.

The right-wing, pro-war position of the Democratic Party was on full display Tuesday as the party leadership presented a new report that criticizes the Bush administration for failing to adequately defend the interests of American militarism...

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2006/sep2006/dems-s06.shtml

271 posted on 09/06/2006 10:22:50 AM PDT by Coop (...one of the best things we can do for the troops is to boot Cut'n'run Murtha!! -- JimRob)
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To: ohioWfan

It's funny. I always thought of FR as a Conservative Forum. Not The 'W Fan Club - complete with Pom-Poms.

P.S. Please don't put words in my mouth.


272 posted on 09/06/2006 10:23:02 AM PDT by fairtrader
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To: Ainast

Is it still possible to get W stickers? I can't find any... :-(


Well, I have one that has not been used! It is on my bookcase along with my conservative books. Not sure I could even part with it on ebay. Something, you just can't ever get rid of. BTW, I have a Bush/Cheney button also..... along with my photos of a Bush rally in NM and a Cheney Rally here in West Texas. I might be one of their last hold outs, but in my heart of hearts, I know both have done what is best for our country.
Heck I would go for BUSH/CHENEY 08.


273 posted on 09/06/2006 10:23:04 AM PDT by JFC (Land of the FREE because of our BRAVE)
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To: Sacajaweau

I sure hope so. This appears to be a big day.


274 posted on 09/06/2006 10:23:28 AM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Mariner

"Perhaps the President intends to announce that he will not respect the decisions of the courts regarding these non-government combatants. He's doing it "for the survivors".

Bingo!

Anyone, who doesn't understand that needs to report to the FR sick call for a shot to lower their BDS titers.


275 posted on 09/06/2006 10:24:03 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist Homosexual Lunatic lies/wet dreams posing as news.)
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To: RobFromGa
Hello,

I get that feeling too. So far, we have reports (from posts here) that the networks have been asked to break into programming, that the 9-11 families are to be attendance and that Tony Snow mentioned that this news would be enormous.

Glad to be here, MOgirl
276 posted on 09/06/2006 10:24:10 AM PDT by MOgirl (Democrats: The Culture of Treason (and you know what I'm talkin about!))
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To: fairtrader

He was suspended imo for disrespecting the Mods friendly and fair warning to get off the thread.

Not censorship.


277 posted on 09/06/2006 10:24:18 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: MOgirl

see 267


278 posted on 09/06/2006 10:24:38 AM PDT by RobFromGa (The FairTax cult is like Scientology, but without the movie stars)
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To: fairtrader

fair.... if you don't want to hear Bush praises, go to du or moveon.hate. They might be just the bull your looking for....


279 posted on 09/06/2006 10:25:19 AM PDT by JFC (Land of the FREE because of our BRAVE)
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To: Lead Moderator

Reminds me of those guys on "Cops" that argue with the police and then have the nerve to look surprised when they get hit.

That was just embarrassing to watch. LOL.


280 posted on 09/06/2006 10:25:19 AM PDT by pollyannaish
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