[ScaniaBoy]

Note:

He dismissed as meaningless a proposed meeting at this time between Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and PA President Mahmoud Abbas, since he said Abbas has no control, and Fatah has little standing, inside the PA.

"It's quite useless to talk to Abbas,"he said. "He can convey messages to [PA Prime Minister Ismail] Haniyeh, but Haniyeh will say what [Damascus-based Hamas leader Khaled] Mashaal wants him to say. Mashaal is pulling the strings."

So, this senior European diplomat (could it be this man ?) is prepared not only to hand Hamas recognition as a serious negotiating partner, but also (and this is the real news) to discard Abbas like yesterday's soiled diapers.

Unfortunately, when the bureaucrasts in the various foreign offices or the EU starts to pull in one direction, their so called lords and masters (snigger, snigger), our elected representatives are soon following.

Abbas is fighting for his (political?) life but may soon be handed a fatal stab in the back by the EU, who will do everything to appease the most radical forces in the Arab world.

[ScaniaBoy]

Ping!

[aynrandfreak]

Europeons waver in their resolve. Dog bites man.

[observer5]

"three conditions - ending terrorism, accepting previous agreements and recognizing Israel - but rather staggering them so an opening is created for talks with the Palestinian Authority"

Do polititians have to be SCHEISTERS?

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Clearly it's important to the EU to see a terror state succeed in the mideast. Recognition and aid could do it.

Hamas' Waning Star?--The reality of a terrorist-run government is finally sinking in.

[richardtavor]

"Hamas to these three conditions, why not start with one, and see where that gets us."

There is no shortage of fools on the earth

[Sabramerican]

ending terrorism, accepting previous agreements and recognizing Israel

I can see the Europeans' point.

So lets drop these unjustified conditions.

Let's see if meetings can be scheduled with Hamas when they are not busy, sometime between their terrorist attacks.

Honoring previous agreements? That's for pussies. Just because Israel gave them land and allowed them to form a Government doesn't mean Israelis should still not be murdered.

And I see absolutely no problem in speaking to Hamas about evil Israel, even though they do not acknowledge that Israel exists. We don't have to mention Israel in our discussion. Just call them that Kike entity.

"Palestinians"- Doing the job that Europeans used to do but now just gets them nostalgic.

[Enchante]

"No one is questioning the need for the three conditions," a senior European diplomatic source said. "But maybe if you cannot get wholesale adherence by Hamas to these three conditions, why not start with one, and see where that gets us."

Yes, dipstick diplomat, YOU are questioning the need for the 3 conditions! YOU want to reward Hamas with massive aid while without even a pretence of meeting 3 such elementary conditions. As YOU note, the strings are pulled by the scumbag in Damascus, so why on earth would you think that such concessions up front mean anything except that diplo-weasels are always ready to trash Israel and embrace terrorists?

[monkeyshine]

What if I can get them to agree to 3 promises?

Then we should talk to them.

What if I can get them to agree to 2 promises? Surely if they agree with two, we should not judge them as harshly?

If they agree to two, then we should not judge them so harshly.

What if I can get them to agree to 1 promise. Surely if they agree to 1, they aren't as bad as agreeing with none...

[NZerFromHK]

Umm, let's see if our resident self-appointed EU spokesperson has anything to say on this matter...