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The "running out of oil" myth, and the inside story on illegal immigration
Renew America ^ | September 4, 2006 | Wes Vernon

Posted on 09/05/2006 7:05:37 AM PDT by seasoned traditionalist

Next time you stop at the pump and pay through-the-stratosphere prices to fill your car's tank, just ponder this: We are not — repeat, we are not running out of oil. There is no good reason you should be paying through the nose. There are only bad reasons for it. If you are also angry about illegal aliens pouring over the border, you should know that illegal immigration is the price we are paying to keep to keep gas prices from going even higher, maybe two or three times higher.

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Thought provoking and worth serious consideration. It does go a long way toward explaining why (both parties) appear to be [un]willing to take a serious approach in securing our borders.

I have read somewhere, that we (the US) purchases just about all of Mexico's oil that it produces.

Thus ANY measure we were to impose in which we actually to stem the flow of illegals streaming across would probably result (and here I’m assuming that perhaps W’s good “bud” Vincente “may” have “cautioned” Bush and others against moving to close and secure the borders) in the flow of much needed oil, suddenly, becoming less available, though this would severely disrupt and hurt Mexico’s economy.

This scenario, appears to lend credibility to those who argue that there must be a reason in which pols are unwilling to do what we could/should—if we were really serious—in securing our Southern Border, other than the influence from the pro-illegal alien/amnesty crowd as well as pressure from bidd business who desperately want to keep the flow of cheap labor unabated.

Last but not least, there are some here who will discount this “automatically,” as the author references Jerome Corsi who co-authored the book which is quoted herein as source for the arugments advanced by Vernon, much as they automatically (regardless of how many other reputable people espouse the same) discount the possibility that there is a movement to eliminate our borders and join Mexico and Canada into a North American Union.

Oh, well, flame on!!!

1 posted on 09/05/2006 7:05:40 AM PDT by seasoned traditionalist
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To: seasoned traditionalist
Next time you stop at the pump and pay trough-the-stratosphere prices
BS. Gas prices are high, but nothing compared to what they were in the 70s.
2 posted on 09/05/2006 7:09:34 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: seasoned traditionalist; oh8eleven
oh8eleven makes a perfectly valid point: in constant dollar terms, gasoline prices are not 'stratospheric.

There, in fact, is a perfectly good reason why petroleum prices are high: the world's two most populace nations, China and India, are both undergoing rapid economic development and generating huge new demand for petroleum.

The 'running out of oil' stuff is, of course, rubbish: at these prices oil shale is viable as an oil source, and we've got lots of that.

3 posted on 09/05/2006 7:13:18 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: seasoned traditionalist

Supply and demand. Unfortunately, illegals are pure demand.


4 posted on 09/05/2006 7:15:13 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: seasoned traditionalist

The mayor of Houston Texas was very worried about
a plague of pigeons in Houston.



The mayor could not remove the pigeons from the city.
All of Houston was full of pigeon poop. The people of
Houston couldn't walk on the sidewalks or drive on the
roads. It was costing a fortune to try to keep the
streets and sidewalks clean.



One day a man came to City Hall and offered the Mayor
a proposition. "I can rid your beautiful city of its
plague of pigeons without cost to the city. But, you
must promise not to ask me any questions. Or, you can
pay me five million dollars and ask one question."



The mayor considered the offer briefly and accepted
the free proposition.



The next day the man climbed to the top of City Hall,
opened his coat, and released a red pigeon. The red
pigeon circled in the air and flew up into the bright
blue Texas sky. All the pigeons in Houston saw the red
pigeon. They gathered up behind the red pigeon. The
Houston pigeons followed the red pigeon as she flew
eastward out of the city.



The next day the red pigeon returned completely alone
to the man atop City Hall. The Mayor was very
impressed. He thought the man and the red pigeon had
performed a wonderful miraculous feat to rid Houston
of the plague of pigeons.



Even though the man with the pigeon had charged
nothing, the mayor presented him with a check for 5
million dollars and told the man that, indeed, he did
have a question to ask and even though they had agreed
to no fee and the man had rid the city of pigeons, he
decided to pay the 5 million just to get to ask ONE
question.



The man accepted the money and told the mayor to ask
his question.



The mayor asked: "Do you have any red Mexicans?"


5 posted on 09/05/2006 7:15:23 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: IrishMike

Very nice!


6 posted on 09/05/2006 7:18:57 AM PDT by Nomorjer Kinov (If the opposite of "pro" is "con" , what is the opposite of progress?)
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To: seasoned traditionalist

Two words: OIL SHALE

There's 2 trillion barrels of oil right here in the good ol' USA...F the Middle East!!!


7 posted on 09/05/2006 7:20:07 AM PDT by TampaDude (If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the PROBLEM!!!)
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To: seasoned traditionalist

So Mexico would just hold onto all of its oil? They wouldn't sell it to anyone?

Puhleeeze.


8 posted on 09/05/2006 7:23:13 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter
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To: oh8eleven

I saw $2.48 for Hugo's gas this morning on the drive in.


9 posted on 09/05/2006 7:24:51 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: seasoned traditionalist
"...there must be a reason in which pols are unwilling to do what we could/should—if we were really serious—in securing our Southern Border... ."

Because there is ---NO---"Southern Border."

Been gone a long time...flame on....

10 posted on 09/05/2006 7:25:13 AM PDT by 100-Fold_Return (III John 2)
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To: seasoned traditionalist
The author has been reading FR; it's been mentioned many times that the ultimate reason for Bush's open-border policy is the necessity of maintaining stability in Mexico.

And it's not just oil either, although that is a factor. More serious is the potential opportunity for players like China/Iran to take advantage of a civil war-torn Mexico in similar fashion as N Korea/Lebanon.

The long-term play is the WoT - the bet is the US will internally survive.

11 posted on 09/05/2006 7:27:40 AM PDT by Chuck Dent
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To: oh8eleven
Hey everybody...stop your b*tchin'!

A gallon of Benjamin Moore paint...Matte Finish... color HC-61 is $46.45 with tax.

;^)

12 posted on 09/05/2006 7:28:26 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: TampaDude
Two words: OIL SHALE There's 2 trillion barrels of oil right here in the good ol' USA...F the Middle East!!!

Chevron just found a huge reserve in the Gulf of Mexico off of Louisiana...Estimates are indicating that it could increase the U.S. Oil reserve by 50%!

13 posted on 09/05/2006 7:30:46 AM PDT by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: seasoned traditionalist
Illegals and Gas shortages reminded me of the old Charlton Heston flick Soylent Green.

Mexico "Fueling" America's economy?

14 posted on 09/05/2006 7:31:12 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Straight Vermonter
So Mexico would just hold onto all of its oil? They wouldn't sell it to anyone?

Puhleeeze

That is NOT what the author suggests or I consider, a valid assumption.

No, what is hinted at herein, is the possibility that Mexico would/could very easily find other "buyers" for their precious oil.

Is that scenario so far fetched as to stretch the credulity/credibility in your mind?

15 posted on 09/05/2006 7:31:54 AM PDT by seasoned traditionalist (ALL MUSLIMS ARE NOT TERRORISTS, BUT ALL TERRORISTS WHO WANT TO DESTROY OUR COUNTRY, ARE MUSLIMS)
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To: seasoned traditionalist

That is BS, if the Mexican govt is holding us ransom over allowing illegals in, they are pretty stupid. I would be willing to bet that they make more than 17 billion that the illegals send home every year, selling crude to us.


16 posted on 09/05/2006 7:32:00 AM PDT by jeremiah (Our military are not "fodder", but fathers and mothers and sons and daughters.)
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To: The_Reader_David

We're not running out of oil--but we have run out of cheap oil. It get's harder and harder to find large quantities of oil--but you are correct; as we do deplenish cheaper sources, then oil shale (and gas) become viable alternatives. As long as we have a gasoline infrastructure, we will be slaves to oil.


17 posted on 09/05/2006 7:32:43 AM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: IrishMike

ROFL!!


18 posted on 09/05/2006 7:32:58 AM PDT by cibco (Xin Loi! Saddam)
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To: frogjerk

Are you sure about that last part?


19 posted on 09/05/2006 7:34:44 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter
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To: seasoned traditionalist

So Mexico sells to someone else and we buy the oil the other buyer would have bought. Oil is oil. It is a fungible commodity.


20 posted on 09/05/2006 7:35:45 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter
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