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G.O.P. Sets Aside Work on Immigration
New York Times via Drudge Report ^ | Sept 4, 2006 | CARL HULSE and RACHEL L. SWARNS

Posted on 09/04/2006 5:48:05 PM PDT by RobFromGa

Edited on 09/05/2006 1:53:36 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON, Sept. 4 — As they prepare for a critical pre-election legislative stretch, Congressional Republican leaders have all but abandoned a broad overhaul of immigration laws and instead will concentrate on national security issues they believe play to their political strength.

With Congress reconvening Tuesday after an August break, Republicans in the House and Senate say they will focus on Pentagon and domestic security spending bills, port security legislation and measures that would authorize the administration’s terror surveillance program and create military tribunals to try terror suspects.

“We Republicans believe that we have no choice in the war against terror and the only way to do it is to continue to take them head-on whether it is in Iraq or elsewhere,” said Representative John A. Boehner of Ohio, the majority leader.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006election; aliens; amensty; borders; buyintothehysteria; congress; election2006; elections; gwot; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; iseekeywordracist; kneejerk; panicmode; skyisfalling; waronterror; wot
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To: mewzilla

they will stick us after the election


281 posted on 09/05/2006 12:00:53 PM PDT by GeronL (flogerloon.blogspot.com -------------> Rise of the Hate Party)
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To: JeffAtlanta

You might want to tone it down a bit, I certainly think that Larry (LS) has done more to advance conservative thought in the real world with his great best-selling book "A Patriot's History of the United States" than 99.9% of all Freepers. You might want to be a little less condescending.


282 posted on 09/05/2006 12:04:10 PM PDT by RobFromGa (The FairTax cult is like Scientology, but without the movie stars)
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To: JeffAtlanta
Why concentrate on an issue like the WOT that has support numbers in the 30%s when you could concentrate on an issue like immigration where almost 70% of the american people agree?

Because both sides of the isle have already signed on to the North American Union idea and don't want to put up any roadblocks to that. So the focus will be on the WOT and home foreclosures.

283 posted on 09/05/2006 12:07:46 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: RobFromGa
You might want to be a little less condescending.

LOL - that's rich considering the content of his posts.

284 posted on 09/05/2006 12:14:16 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: RobFromGa
Immigration is set aside. The WOT is the issue. Perhaps we will see action on border and port security through legislation on national security.

Two months of legislative time is left before the midterms. If nothing regarding border/port security lands on the President's desk for his signature; IMHO, the GOP could be vulnerable.

285 posted on 09/05/2006 12:46:46 PM PDT by afnamvet (It is what it is.)
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To: redgolum
Because both sides of the isle have already signed on to the North American Union idea and don't want to put up any roadblocks to that.

The democratic stance on illegal immigration won't demoralilze and keep traditional midterm democratic voters at home.

The GOP stance on illegal immigration will demoralize and keep traditional midterm GOP voters at home.

The democrats don't have to be right or better on this issue as the democratic voters don't generally care that much, they just need the Republicans to be wrong.

286 posted on 09/05/2006 12:47:09 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: JeffAtlanta

Hmmm. You're making it sound like the teams are equal. They ain't. One's good, one's bad. And I told you so.


287 posted on 09/05/2006 12:48:21 PM PDT by LS
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To: RobFromGa

What happened to the previous bill?

Didn't it get stalled in the senate thanks to Mccain and Kennedy?

House Republicans are smart, they are concentrating their efforts on achieving something rather than an another immigration bill that gets stalled. The buchanite conservatives dont like it, but they are not known for their political smartness.


288 posted on 09/05/2006 12:51:00 PM PDT by GregH
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To: LS
Iraq, Iraq, Iraq. It ain't a hand that has been overplayed, nor will it be as long as terrorism is around.

Coupling attacking terrorist abroad with securing the U.S. would've been a winning strategy.

[Illegal immigration is] not an issue that alone will win a local election.

But it can lose elections - at all levels.
289 posted on 09/05/2006 12:53:29 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: CottonBall

Won't lose this one because the opponent has a WORSE strategy for "dealing" with it than the GOP, and that's the simple logic that people here want to ignore.


290 posted on 09/05/2006 12:54:51 PM PDT by LS
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To: JeffAtlanta
The GOP stance on illegal immigration will demoralize and keep traditional midterm GOP voters at home.

You got that right!
291 posted on 09/05/2006 12:55:38 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: LS
You're making it sound like the teams are equal.

Do you even read my posts? I've stated numerous times that the dems are bad news and will investigate the hell out of Bush and even fabricate something if they have to.

Rather than gloating and being condenscending in every post, maybe it would be better to stick to the actual issues.

In non-midterm elections, attracting independent minded voters is key as each party's base comes usually shows up in high numbers.

That isn't true for midterm elections which are traditionally low turnout - especially if a governor is not being elected. In 2002, 9/11 was only 13 months previous and it helped the GOP.

Those independent voters don't show up much in midterm election so it is all about energizing the base. Look on FR and see for yourself how engergized the base really is.

The GOP is going to lose seats, the only question is to what degree - do you disagree with that or do you think they will pick up seats?

292 posted on 09/05/2006 12:57:14 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: LS
Won't lose this one because the opponent has a WORSE strategy for "dealing" with it than the GOP, and that's the simple logic that people here want to ignore.

As far as the House goes, that is right and I'd back their efforts on HR4437 any day. But the difference between many GOP Senators and the President and what the Democrats would do w/r amnesty is....I don't believe there is a difference. Things couldn't get much worse than the Senate immigration bill.

Unfortunately, what many voters will remember is the Senate bill and that the President backed it. The House and their efforts will be forgotten in the backlash. And the GOP isn't doing themselves any favors by not backing truly conservative candidates, such as Randy Graf (how is that spelled?) The locals in those areas will remember that as well.

I have my fingers crossed that the House will address border security and the issue of having millions of unknown - some possibly hostile - illegals in their WOT bills before elections. We can't have one without the other.
293 posted on 09/05/2006 1:02:15 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: JeffAtlanta
Look on FR and see for yourself how engergized the base really is.

We're energized all right - to vote Constitution Party.
294 posted on 09/05/2006 1:03:52 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: LS
Won't lose this one because the opponent has a WORSE strategy for "dealing" with it than the GOP, and that's the simple logic that people here want to ignore.

That isn't "simple logic" it's a logical fallacy. The democratic policy on illegal immigration doesn't demoralize their base. The GOP policy on illegal immigration does demoralize ours.

Again, look at 1992. GOP voters withheld their vote from Bush because he agreed to raise taxes, knowing full well that it would lead to the election of Clinton that had an even worse strategy for "dealing" with the problem.

295 posted on 09/05/2006 1:04:17 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: CottonBall

Well, consider me. I SWORE I would not vote for DeWhine because of illegals. But I cannot allow Brown to become Senator Brown. It just is unthinkable. So I have lied to myself (something I rarely do) and will vote for DeWine. I don't think I'm alone.


296 posted on 09/05/2006 1:07:36 PM PDT by LS
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To: CottonBall
I have my fingers crossed that the House will address border security and the issue of having millions of unknown - some possibly hostile - illegals in their WOT bills before elections.

Hopefully they will come to their senses and craft a very simple bill that builds a wall and requires criminal prosecution of employers of illegals. That would probably save the House and might even turn to tide to the point that we pick up seats.

The amnesty debate can wait until after we see what the results of the wall and emplyers sanctions have. Once the daily invasion is stopped then we can finally start getting a handle on who is here and if they are hostile or not.

297 posted on 09/05/2006 1:09:24 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: LS
But I cannot allow Brown to become Senator Brown. It just is unthinkable. So I have lied to myself (something I rarely do) and will vote for DeWine. I don't think I'm alone.

Admittedly I don't know much about Brown, but if the dem candidates are smart then they will keep a low profile and not do anything controversial. If they start talking about nationalized healthcare or raising taxes then they are screwed.

Of course they have Dean as their leader so intelligent campaigning is not their strong suit.

298 posted on 09/05/2006 1:19:12 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: RobFromGa
The War on Terror is certainly a better issue to go into the Midterm elections with, as compared with Immigration

Most people fail to see how they are exclusive of each other. Of course the RINOS see destruction in one and votes in the other. Which one to put on the proverbial back burner??

I won't support anyone who has not come out staunchly anti-immigration. That includes my Congressman Joe Wilson who I have supported for decades since he was an upstart SC legislator. Even die-hard conservatives, or so I thought, are bowing to whatever the current agenda is, which is a North American treaty similar to the EU, I do believe. And right now they all make me sick.

So there I said that and I'm stickin' to it! :-)

299 posted on 09/05/2006 1:46:33 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't! --FReeper airborne)
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To: RobFromGa
I hope the RINOS are ready to say PRESIDENT TANCREDO!
300 posted on 09/05/2006 1:50:51 PM PDT by pointsal (Q)
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