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9/11: Five years later Typecasting Muslims as a Race
The San Francisco Chronicle ^ | September 3, 2006 | Matthai Chakko Kuruvila, Chronicle Religion Writer

Posted on 09/03/2006 10:56:41 PM PDT by Tamar1973

As the war on terror heads into its sixth year, a new racial stereotype is emerging in America. Brown-skinned men with beards and women with head scarves are seen as "Muslims" -- regardless of their actual faith or nationality.

Law enforcement measures, politicians, religious leaders and the media have contributed to stereotyping Muslims as a race -- echoing the painful history of another faith.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: fifthanniversary; islam; mooselimbs; race; security; war; wot
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To: zimdog
Or we need to keep checking everyone. Period.

Great idea. It would be nice. Just not practical from a logistics and cost standpoint.

101 posted on 09/04/2006 4:53:35 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: zimdog
Where they compete with Orthodox Russia, Catholic Philippines, and Buddhist Thailand. What's your point?

You're actually right here - this is totally pointless. The topical spam on Christian anti-semitism, tobacco as equivalent of opium poppy and private business equalled to state policy has taken us far away from the issue of Mohammedans as potential fifth column and grass roots of terrorism.

That was exactly your intention, wasn't it?

The fact of the matter is that the suspition and dislike toward Muslim cannot be justified each and every time it is manifested. But most of the times it is. There are definitely good Muslims, too. So - paraphrasing an old anti-Semitic joke (as a Jew, I am a conossier of this kind of folklore) - good coffins for good Muslims, bad coffins - to bad ones.

And no, it isn't any proof that Muslims are the new Jews. It's just a joke.

102 posted on 09/04/2006 5:07:55 AM PDT by Neophyte (Nazis, Communists, Islamists... what the heck is the difference?)
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To: zimdog; ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; FITZ; ...
[zimdog wrote:] Christians have been terrorizing Jews since before the Crusades too.

And so did ancient Egyptians, Assyrians, Greeks and Romans. Jews were "terrorizing" others when they had the chance.

Other nations also has been "terrorized" as well. Greeks were "terrorized" by the Persians and then they "terrorized" Persians in return. Romans "terrorized" everybody in the Mediterranean world and then they got "terrorized" by the Germanic tribes and by Huns.

Such is human history. Nobody deserves the unique victim status and seeing the division of world/mankind into "us" and "not-us" as the primary /main division is not healthy.

103 posted on 09/04/2006 5:19:52 AM PDT by A. Pole (Deng Xiaoping: "It doesn't matter whether the cat is black or white, as long as it catches mice.")
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To: zimdog

"you havne't heard of christians terrorizing jews at any time over the past century,maybe more? (your initial phrasing of the time period)"

You don't seem able to differentiate between people who are Christians and The Christian Faith. Muslim LEADERS, Imams etc themselves despise and want to kill the Jews. When was the last time, if ever, Christians were inveighed from the pulpit and or the throne of St Peter to wipe the Jews (as subhumans, monkeys etc) off the face of the earth?

For muslims it is an unbroken wail from the first moment of the DeathCult to this moment.



104 posted on 09/04/2006 5:37:23 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: Rembrandt_fan

Great post. I agree with you completely. If they follow the koran, as muslims do, which calls for converting or killing infidels, then they are part of the problem. The only good "muslim" is one who does not believe in the koran. If they don't follow the koran, they're not muslim. Ergo.....


105 posted on 09/04/2006 5:37:31 AM PDT by battletank
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To: Neophyte; A. Pole
That was exactly your intention, wasn't it?

A.Pole's post sums up my intentions succinctly. I provided counterexamples to different posters' dubious illustrations of monolithic Muslim perfidity.

106 posted on 09/04/2006 5:38:10 AM PDT by zimdog
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To: TalBlack
When was the last time, if ever, Christians were inveighed from the pulpit and or the throne of St Peter to wipe the Jews (as subhumans, monkeys etc) off the face of the earth?

Crusades are the best example. Pre-Vatican 2 liturgy held that Jews collectively bear the guilt for Christ's crucifixion.

107 posted on 09/04/2006 5:41:15 AM PDT by zimdog
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To: Neophyte
Once again, what does this have to do with the silly assertion of the article's writer?

I'm afraid I don't understand what exactly you're asking for. What is the silly assertion? That people see dark-skinned men with beards and think "MUSLIM!" instead of other ethnic (national) or religious groups?

108 posted on 09/04/2006 5:43:51 AM PDT by zimdog
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To: zimdog

"Crusades are the best example. Pre-Vatican 2 liturgy held that Jews collectively bear the guilt for Christ's crucifixion."

The Crusades came AFTER and in response to SOP muslim depradations.As for Jewish ''guilt' show me the part where the Pope called for or endorsed their utter destruction as a response.

What were Jesus' feelings in the matter?

The destruction of ALL Jews is an unbroken wail that began at the birth of the DeathCult and continues today.


109 posted on 09/04/2006 5:52:21 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: SoldierDad

I have heard no stories of Christians having "terrorized" Jews during at least the past century if not longer.

Define "terrorize" and "Christian".


110 posted on 09/04/2006 6:04:42 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: Erik Latranyi

This is why profiling does not work with this group of terrorists

It appears to work pretty well for El-Al airlines. Of course they do Psychological profiling, NOT racial profiling.


111 posted on 09/04/2006 6:09:10 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: Valin
It appears to work pretty well for El-Al airlines. Of course they do Psychological profiling, NOT racial profiling.

Which is what I advocate. Random searches combined with behavior (psychological) profiling.

112 posted on 09/04/2006 6:11:35 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: zimdog
That people see dark-skinned men with beards and think "MUSLIM!" instead of other ethnic (national) or religious groups?

You mixed ice-cream with dog poo again. Muslims are not "other" ethnic or national group - they're not etnic or national group at all.

113 posted on 09/04/2006 6:16:24 AM PDT by Neophyte (Nazis, Communists, Islamists... what the heck is the difference?)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Many many many years ago I was a cop in the Air Force, ALL cops profile. It is in the nature of the work. "That guy don't look right", all El-Al and the Israelis have done is codify it, you act a certain way they are going to talk to you, it doesn't matter what you look like.


114 posted on 09/04/2006 6:39:29 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: Valin
...all El-Al and the Israelis have done is codify it, you act a certain way they are going to talk to you, it doesn't matter what you look like.

Which is the superior way to profile as our enemies do not all look the same.

Also, our enemies hope we suppress all Muslims because it feeds into the picture Bin Laden et al paint of us and helps their recruiting efforts. We cannot feed the "us versus them" mentality.

115 posted on 09/04/2006 6:46:48 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Also, our enemies hope we suppress all Muslims because it feeds into the picture Bin Laden et al paint of us and helps their recruiting efforts. We cannot feed the "us versus them" mentality.


Something many here don't seem to get. Also why I spend time arguing with the nuke Mecca crowd.


116 posted on 09/04/2006 7:01:14 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: Valin

"Something many here don't seem to get."

I don't think you get just what this says about your so-called "moderate Muslims".


117 posted on 09/04/2006 7:04:13 AM PDT by Peisistratus (Islam delende est)
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To: Valin
Also why I spend time arguing with the nuke Mecca crowd.

....and the internment camp crowd......

....and the ban all Muslims from airports crowd....

....and the all Muslims are evil crowd....

....and the Islam and Democracy cannot coexist crowd...

....etc, etc, etc

We need to keep speaking up against the narrow-minded.

118 posted on 09/04/2006 7:32:47 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: Peisistratus

Some of us look at the world as it really is.


119 posted on 09/04/2006 7:52:09 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: Cobra64

Nice to know I'm not the only one confused by his subterfuge.


120 posted on 09/04/2006 8:25:59 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of an American Soldier)
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