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Despite disagreements, conservatives embrace Schwarzenegger
ap on Riverside Press Enterprise ^ | 9/3/06 | Laura Kurtzman - ap

Posted on 09/03/2006 12:41:59 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

GARDEN GROVE

Gelia Crayton is the picture of conservative California. She worships at the Crystal Cathedral, Orange County's gleaming megachurch, and opposes abortion and gay marriage. She thinks illegal immigration is the scourge of the state.

Crayton's hardline views are at odds with the moderation Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has gone out of his way to advertise this year, as he seeks re-election.

Yet on a recent Sunday after church services here, the 58-year-old real estate agent pledged to stay loyal to the governor "until he says, 'Taxes are going to go up and welcome illegals.'"

Crayton's pragmatism helps explain how Schwarzenegger has consolidated his party's support this year, even as he has flouted many of its core beliefs.

He has angered social conservatives by hiring a lesbian Democrat as his chief of staff and upset fiscal conservatives by partnering with legislators to put the largest bond package in California history on the November ballot. He also crossed the business lobby by agreeing to raise the minimum wage, force prescription drug companies to offer discounts and cap greenhouse gas emissions.

Despite all this, as many as 85 percent of California Republicans tell pollsters they will vote for Schwarzenegger in November. Last year, when his popularity was at a nadir because of the special election, just 66 percent of Republicans were willing to say they'd vote for him.

Schwarzenegger's celebrity helps him bend the rules of politics. Voters often say they feel they have a personal connection to him. Crayton, for example, cut the governor slack on account of his Democratic wife, Maria Shriver, who is a member of the Kennedy clan.

Crayton thinks Schwarzenegger, who supports abortion rights, is "playing politics" on abortion, and she wishes he were tougher on immigration. But she rationalizes his actions as necessary to cope with the pressure he gets at home.

"He's got certain concessions he's got to make because he's got a family life, too," she said.

Her friend Ruth Daugherty, who also was worshipping at the Crystal Cathedral, excused the governor's moderate stance on immigration and even his reluctance to send the National Guard to the border with Mexico as a political necessity in a state like California, where Democrats dominate.

"I think he's doing the best he can," said Daugherty, 73, a retired banker who lives in Irvine, "because he can't be as vocal about it as we are and get elected."

There is an undercurrent of protest against the governor, particularly on immigration.

After Schwarzenegger said he was surprised at the "intensity of prejudice" toward illegal immigrants he encountered at a town hall meeting near San Diego, talk radio erupted.

In Los Angeles, KFI's John Ziegler upbraided Schwarzenegger's campaign manager, Steve Schmidt, who had gone on the air to try to contain the damage, for the governor's election-year shift.

"He's not a Republican and you know that," Ziegler told Schmidt. "Because you know a real Republican can't win statewide, so you and Maria have orchestrated this move to the left. Congratulations, but don't deny it. Take credit for it."

How much discontent over the governor's moves this year filters down to the average voter is an open question.

In interviews throughout conservative Orange and Riverside counties, few voters even knew the governor's position on immigration, much less the details of legislation or the inside workings of his staff.

And while most voters were angry about illegal immigration, almost none laid the blame at the governor's feet.

"It's not Arnold's fault," said Ken Mummert, 66, who was eating lunch at Costco in the Riverside County town of Temecula. "Immigration's been a problem that's been going on a long time."

Still, Mummert, an evangelical Christian who is "somewhat retired" and writing his second book, said he wasn't all that enthusiastic about voting for Schwarzenegger.

"I have to think about whether I'm going to vote at all," he said. "I'm at the point where I think it's a total waste of time."

The prospect that conservatives might stay home is worrisome for Schwarzenegger. Analysts are predicting that President Bush's unpopularity could hurt him in November if it discourages Republicans from voting.

California has 1.3 million more Democrats than Republicans. To win, Schwarzenegger needs to rally his Republican base, convert a few Democrats and win the majority of independents.

The state Republican party is promising a huge volunteer effort to get out its vote.

The governor's campaign also is doing everything it can to scare Republicans into supporting the governor by tagging his Democratic opponent, state Treasurer Phil Angelides, a tax-and-spend liberal.

Those tactics may be working.

Crayton's fiance, Ken Sheppard, for example, has been angry at some of the things the governor has done this year, particularly his reluctance to comply with President Bush's request to send National Guard troops to the border with Mexico.

"I don't think he had any right to do anything against the president or say anything against the president," said Sheppard, who is a real estate investor from Encino.

The governor balked at Bush's request, saying the plan was ill-conceived. He only agreed to send the troops when the federal government agreed to pay for the deployment.

But Sheppard said he is supporting Schwarzenegger and phone-banking for the Republican ticket out of fear of what the Democratic alternative might bring.

In the end, he said, his vote for Schwarzenegger, while solid, was more a negative than a positive.

"I personally believe if the other side were going to win, we would be hit with higher taxes for years and years and years," he said. "It's not like voting for Arnold. It's voting against Angelides."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2006election; california; election2006; elections; embracingmyankles; imgonnabesick; ohplease; schwarzenegger; thatsnotembracing
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Embracing? lol

AP has jumped on the aRnie BandWagon too.. lol

1 posted on 09/03/2006 12:42:00 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

"It's not like voting for Arnold. It's voting against Angelides."


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When neither side has principles on their side, vote personality, at least the Gub has one.. albeit one that continues to distance him from the rest of the GOP
November ballot candidates.


2 posted on 09/03/2006 12:44:44 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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Despite all this, as many as 85 percent of California Republicans tell pollsters they will vote for Schwarzenegger in November.

I must've been in the 15% when I told the RNC caller last month I would never vote for Arnold because he's a girlie-man on illegal immigration.
3 posted on 09/03/2006 12:46:52 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: NormsRevenge

Arnold is the lesser of two evils.


4 posted on 09/03/2006 12:52:13 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: NormsRevenge

Just amazing. If I vote for Angelides, I get...Angelides. If I vote for Schwartznagger, I get.....Angelides.


5 posted on 09/03/2006 12:54:05 PM PDT by stboz
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To: Uncle Hal

I agree. That is why I'm voting for him. The lesser of two evils. The AP is full of it as usual.


6 posted on 09/03/2006 1:12:59 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: All

REMINDER:

"California has 1.3 million more Democrats than Republicans. To win, Schwarzenegger needs to rally his Republican base, convert a few Democrats and win the majority of independents. "

OR we end up with Angelides.


7 posted on 09/03/2006 1:39:38 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: Uncle Hal
Arnold is the lesser of two evils... but sporting full, liberal credentials non the less.

From my perspective the role of conservatives in California is not to support the Republican Party's appointed, gubernatorial candidate just to place a liberal into the highest office in the state.

Had the CAGOP followed party traditions and allowed registered Republicans to select their gubernatorial candidate in the June, the party wouldn't be wasting it dwindling resources and energy to control the internicene rebellion.

If the Republican's Austrian liberal is reelected governor in November the CAGOP gains a hollow victory, Californians are plunged further into the abyss of liberalism and many conservatives will have been actively undermined by their own party.

Vote in November. Vote conservative. Sweep both Heckel and Jeckel into the political ash heap.

8 posted on 09/03/2006 1:43:51 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: everyone

Wrong. They found a few conservatives who embrace Schwarzenegger. That's not the same as "conservatives."


9 posted on 09/03/2006 1:46:07 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: NormsRevenge

Ahnold is the slightly lessor two extreme evils.

And he is bringing Tom McClintock in with him (I hope).


10 posted on 09/03/2006 1:47:35 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (the war on poverty should include health club memberships for the morbidly poor)
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To: NormsRevenge
NormsRevenge, a one trick pony. Anti-Arnold all the time.

I'm sorry you have to live in a state with such an awful governor. Perhaps you'd like to swap governors with us up here in Oregon. Ted Kulongoski is a real peach.

11 posted on 09/03/2006 2:34:18 PM PDT by DuxFan4ever (The next rational liberal I meet will be the first.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Vote for (R)nold and you may as well embrace your ankles, too.
12 posted on 09/03/2006 2:35:45 PM PDT by Prime Choice (Kindness to the cruel is cruelty to the kind.)
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To: Uncle Hal; NormsRevenge
Arnold is the lesser of two evils.

That ain't exactly a selling point in my book.

I mean, c'mon...would you rather aim high and court a beautiful woman with the possibility of striking out, or settle for a sure home run when your choices are limited (by some party schmuck) to Hillary Clinton and Helen Thomas?

Once you figure that one out, you'll understand why a lot of conservatives are burned out on taking this "lesser of two evils" bullcrap.

13 posted on 09/03/2006 2:42:16 PM PDT by Prime Choice (Kindness to the cruel is cruelty to the kind.)
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To: NormsRevenge
I nearly fell off my chair when I read this! The Left, including the MSM, seems to think we will sell out our core beliefs and loyalty in our party to any one... even someone who gives us the back of his hand. They must be on crack to write that conservatives embrace the Liberalinator! Good thing they haven't stopped by Free Republic to check the sentiment. With few exceptions, none of us thinks Arnold deserves to be re-elected in November.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

14 posted on 09/03/2006 2:47:14 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: CottonBall
Nearly every one on here seems to be in that 15%. The Drive By Media despise people who hold fast to their convictions. You'll get a lot of attention if you go along with the flow.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

15 posted on 09/03/2006 2:50:01 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: California Patriot
Would that be those life-long "conservative" Republicans typically profiled in the media? Uh huh. The Drive Bys wouldn't know a real conservative if he slapped them in the face.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

16 posted on 09/03/2006 2:52:14 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Prime Choice
The lesser of two evils... is still evil. Its not good enough for California.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

17 posted on 09/03/2006 2:53:36 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: freedumb2003
And he is bringing Tom McClintock in with him (I hope).

Now Tom is one that I will vote for. He's running for lieutenant governor, which means, I think, that he won't really have an influence unless the one elected governor can no longer fulfill their duties.
18 posted on 09/03/2006 3:06:05 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: NormsRevenge

The liberals have figured out how to win elective office in conservative times; they just run as 'conservatives.' It's taking them a little longer to move the country in the leftward direction they want it to go but they're doing it with conservative votes! (I.Q. test question: What's wrong with that picture?)


19 posted on 09/03/2006 3:07:28 PM PDT by Bernard Marx ("Congress is a wholly owned subsidiary of corporate America." Pat Buchanan)
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To: NormsRevenge
Time for that wonderful quote again.

"Presidents, regardless of party, face constant pressures from the Left -- from the Big Brother government, neofascist, high tax, property-confiscating liberals, from the econazis and global warmists, from the pro-abortionists, from those who are pro-one world and anti-American and from those who advocate cradle-to-grave socialism. (Have I left anyone out?) And, unless there are constant counter-pressures from those on the Right who believe in small government, low taxes, America first and individual liberty, presidents, under Left-wing pressure, tend to drift that way." --Lyn Nofziger


20 posted on 09/03/2006 3:13:33 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Angelides v. Schwarzenegger is like deciding between ebola and cancer, respectively.)
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