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The New First Grade: Too Much??
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14638573/site/newsweek/ ^

Posted on 09/03/2006 10:52:22 AM PDT by roostercogburn

The New First Grade: Too Much Too Soon? Kids as young as 6 are tested, and tested again, to ensure they're making sufficient progress. Then there's homework, more workbooks and tutoring.

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KEYWORDS: backtoschool; education
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Freep the poll there. 77% agree school is too hard for kids. I do not think it is hard enough. The teachers unions are the ones I bet doing the majority of the complaining.
1 posted on 09/03/2006 10:52:23 AM PDT by roostercogburn
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To: roostercogburn

First graders shouldn't have homework.


2 posted on 09/03/2006 10:53:04 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: mysterio

First graders should have homework in Latin and arithmetic.


3 posted on 09/03/2006 10:54:36 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: mysterio
...and there is absolutely no reason for K-5 or K-4. I had neither and survived quite nicely.
4 posted on 09/03/2006 10:55:45 AM PDT by Founding Father (muslims are enemies of Western Civilization)
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To: mysterio

Why not?
Homework isn't tough on the kids. I think alot of parents do not want to make the time or effort to help with it.


5 posted on 09/03/2006 10:56:40 AM PDT by roostercogburn
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To: roostercogburn

It's mostly parents complaining. 'Course most parents were educated in public schools - where they must take EVERY child, no matter how bad off, no matter the behavior or lack of intellect. No matter what.

No wonder the public schools are a cesspool.


6 posted on 09/03/2006 10:57:06 AM PDT by Principled
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Exactly. Parents do not want to take the time it take. Funny thing, it isn't huge amounts of time. My wife and I spend one hour per night with them doing homework.
I guess that extra hour could be better spent with Sponge Bob?


7 posted on 09/03/2006 11:00:57 AM PDT by roostercogburn
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To: roostercogburn; Eaker

Don't be dissin' Sponge Bob.


8 posted on 09/03/2006 11:05:10 AM PDT by humblegunner (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
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To: roostercogburn

I didn't have homework until third grade at least, and I still did quite well on my SAT and in college. It's too much for someone that age. Little kids need the teachers to go through the techniques with them one on one, and then they need after school time to decompress.


9 posted on 09/03/2006 11:06:19 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: mysterio
First graders shouldn't have homework.

No students of any age should. The school is the zone for learning. Outside of school is the zone for life.

10 posted on 09/03/2006 11:07:35 AM PDT by montag813
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To: roostercogburn

The ones who complain that school is too hard for kids [1st grade or otherwise] are those who value education only so long as they don't have to put themselves out to get that education [for themselves or their children, as the case may be]. They want A's for their work, but they don't want to take the time or the effort that a meaningful A requires.


11 posted on 09/03/2006 11:07:58 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Only a fool creates ill will unnecessarily.)
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To: Founding Father

Basically, I think the most important thing you can do for your child is make sure they know how to read by the age of four or so. That's what my parents did for me, and it put me years ahead of other children in that area. My parents are both teachers, and pretty good ones.


12 posted on 09/03/2006 11:08:39 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: montag813

I don't have a problem with homework and studying for tests and such. But the majority of home time shouldn't be homework. I got pretty burned out on it. I made it through grad school, and I still felt like a teenager because I had spent so much time studying that I hadn't really experienced anything.


13 posted on 09/03/2006 11:10:31 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: RightWhale
First graders should have homework in Latin and arithmetic.

After Nursery School and Kindergarten, kids should know their ABC's, how to read a bit, and be old enough to not have nap time.

They should be experts in eating cookies and drinking koolaid.

14 posted on 09/03/2006 11:14:40 AM PDT by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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First graders should be able to write the Greek alphabet by the end of the year.


15 posted on 09/03/2006 11:16:46 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: roostercogburn

Way too much in the early years...

Far too little in the mid to late years...

Take out the social engineering and get back to basics.


16 posted on 09/03/2006 11:17:49 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Bring your press credentials to Qana, for the world's most convincing terrorist street theater.)
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To: Mark was here

Second graders should know times table up to 12 x 12 by the end of the year.


17 posted on 09/03/2006 11:18:29 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: mysterio
First graders shouldn't have school, nobody should have school, they should have education instead. Public school is institutionalized child abuse and stalinist indoctrination.
18 posted on 09/03/2006 11:19:26 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: DoughtyOne

HS seniors should be fluent in Latin and Greek and calculus.


19 posted on 09/03/2006 11:20:09 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: montag813
"No students of any age should (have homework). The school is the zone for learning. Outside of school is the zone for life."

If 'life' does not include learning, something, at every opportunity and as a habit learned early, then 'life' is not only pointless, it is self defeating.

I don't know if today's first grade is too hard or just day care but if the parents (or someone) fails to make a kid appreciate learning - early - the next eleven or so grades won't mean a thing.

20 posted on 09/03/2006 11:23:00 AM PDT by norton
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