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To: tioga

The former owner of things placed in trash intended for disposal has no rights of ownership in the item and no expectation of privacy in the contents. (U.S. Supreme Court).... Moreover, it cannot be trespass since it is a business open to and inviting the public. The prosecutor is a shill for the business interest and the poor defendant doesn't know his rights in such a case. There is no crime in this scenario.


22 posted on 09/02/2006 9:23:11 PM PDT by middie
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To: middie; tioga
> The former owner of things placed in trash intended for disposal has no rights of ownership... There is no crime in this scenario.

That may be. But the context -- a Rainbow Gathering -- places an entirely different level of concern on the single instance. I agree the guys shouldn't have been nailed to the wall. But the fact that they were part of a huge group, most of whom (including possibly these two) would be all too willing to steal NON-trash items, gives the City a different and harsher perspective.

I don't excuse the City's action, but I understand it.

31 posted on 09/02/2006 9:30:04 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: middie

What if the trash dumpster is located in a fenced locked area and they break into that? They have that alot here at fast food places and retail stores.


37 posted on 09/02/2006 9:39:28 PM PDT by Jaded (does it really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: middie
"Moreover, it cannot be trespass since it is a business open to and inviting the public."

Not after business hours, it isn't. Also, a business has the right to show anybody the door, even during business hours. It's called private property. IOW, these two were definitely trespassing. They had no right to be there and no right to handle the property of others, ie. the dumpster.

81 posted on 09/02/2006 10:29:21 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: middie
The former owner of things placed in trash intended for disposal has no rights of ownership in the item and no expectation of privacy in the contents. (U.S. Supreme Court).... Moreover, it cannot be trespass since it is a business open to and inviting the public. The prosecutor is a shill for the business interest and the poor defendant doesn't know his rights in such a case. There is no crime in this scenario.

They are hippies. Hippies have no rights.

Only clean-cut conservatives have rights. (/s)

155 posted on 09/03/2006 4:39:55 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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