GOP Tries Blocking Libertarian Candidates

http://www.ny.lp.org/news/2006.gopblocks.htm ^ | 8 31 06 | lp.org

[freepatriot32]

LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF NEW YORK (516) 767-4688 http://www.ny.lp.org/ Contact: Richard Cooper, State Chair nylibertarian@hotmail.com John Clifton www.electclifton.org; Michael Sylvia mike@mikesylvia.org www.mikesylvia.org; Eric Sundwall info@sundwall4congress.org www. sundwall4congress.org; Steve Finger 917-623-0652 Finger4Congress@aol.com, www.fingerforcongress.org FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE GOP Tries Blocking Libertarian Candidates

Albany, NY 8/31/06 Libertarian Party of New York State Chair Richard Cooper reports that general objections have been filed against both the statewide Libertarian petition and that for Eric Sundwall in the 20th Congressional District. Cooper asks “Are the Republicans and lobbyist John Faso desperate to keep the Libertarians out of the race? They know we won’t hesitate to expose Republicans as deceiving the public with less government rhetoric and big government practice.” The 20th District seat held by Republican John Sweeney is thought to be one of the more competitive this year.

A GOP Town leader from north of NYC approached Libertarian Party gubernatorial candidate John Clifton with a proposition: Clifton should publicly praise Faso for his conservative stands on gun control and other issues. In other words, the GOP leader sought an endorsement in all but name from the competition. Undisclosed future benefits would result. Clifton was not interested. He declines to name this political activist he has known for some time. Cooper says the same person tried to have the Libertarians nominate Faso when Weld dropped out of the race. The approach took place at a recent gathering of the Foundation for Economic Education in Irvington-on-Hudson. Cooper declares that “This refusal by Libertarian gubernatorial candidate John Clifton to play political games shows that the Libertarian Party is the Party of Principle.”

Cooper notes that Comptroller candidate John Cain from Congers in Rockland County wore a microphone for investigators when offered a bribe, resulting in convictions. Besides Cain and Clifton, the Libertarians are running Jeffrey Russell for US Senate, Donald Silberger for Lt. Governor, and Christopher Garvey for Attorney-General. On the Congressional line, the Libertarians are running Michael Sylvia in the 24tth District and Dr. Steve Finger in the 11th. –30-

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[JTN]

I notice a lot of Libertarians do not like to use capital letters, comas, complete sentences, etc.

Comas? Yeah, I admit. I do try to avoid those.

[JTN]

The 2 or 3 percent you guys pull from us is all the Dems need to win in a tight election year. Thanks alot!

Like we care anymore.

[drhogan]

i used to be a libertarian prior to 9-11, but i don't think the libertarians have a realistic view of national security and defense.
however, the fact that the LP is against government control of private behavior is not the same thing as "endorsing" immoral behavior.
and the term "homosexual agenda" is unclear--do you mean repealing laws against private homosexual behavior, or do you mean passing laws to give homosexuals special rights?
also, marxists don't believe in the separation of church and state. marxists tend to believe in the complete destruction of the church by the state.
finally, some marxist regimes, such as the cuban government, have ruthlessly suppressed homosexuals.

[JTN]

The honeymoon is over. Divorce is in the future.

For me, it's already happened.

[MassachusettsGOP]

Some people are tired of pot-smoking Liberals frauding Signatures so that they can dilute Republican strength, screw America and enable the Democrats to win.

Republicans have delivered:
Welfare Reform
Tax Cuts
An America Terrorist free for 5 years
Ban on Partial Birth Abortion
Loosening of Gun Regulations
Conservatives on the High Courts
A robust economy
And a place in the World that does not take s*@% from the UN
And most of all, No Democrats in Power

Republicans Propose:
Partial Privatization of Social Security
Elimination of the Death Tax
Winning the War in Iraq
More Conservative Appointees
Holding Iran responsible
Reforming Immigration (the House way)
And defending our Religion, our Language, Our Borders, our Culture from the grasps of the Communistic turn-tail Demo-RATS.

The Liberaltarians have delivered:
The scrapping of 2-3% from nearly every failed Republican candidate in the last 15 years, thus adding to the Democratic minority.
Other than that NOTHING.

The Liberaltarians propose:
The destruction of our society through;
No Drug Laws
No Abortion Laws
No Immigration Laws
A withdrawal from Iraq and any defense of America overseas
A repeal of the Patriot Act
The Cutting and Destruction of our Military and its Budget.

Cut the Crap, The Liberaltarians are Pinko Communists in Disguise. You want to have smaller government, join the Republican Liberty Caucus and get your priorities straight.

[JTN]

Have you ever read the rants on DU and the Kos Kids in favor of their dope?

Kos is actually a libertarianish democrat. For example, he supports the Second Amendment.

[JTN]

Believing they can win elections, and when they don't, they don't take responsibility for their own words or deeds.

The Republicans should take responsibility for their own words and deeds when they lose close elections instead of blaming the libertarians for not acting like good battered wives and voting for them.

[MassachusettsGOP]

Yup, just let the Democrats win. Great Work! Some people actually care about America, I guess you're not one of them.

[Owen]

Folks,

You Have To Pick Your Fights. Until you win state legislature seats and accumulate the legislative experience that comes with those, you are only serving as a spoiler.

This is not an argument. This is not a debate. This is truth, and you all know it.

Make your case to the people. Do it at the state level. You're entitled to your case. Go to Oregon and Washington state and tell them about your need for legalization of pot and it may win you some state legislature seats.

The problem you folks face is you're not interested in party building activities. You're only interested in headlines and ego. You are 10-15 yrs from a permanently funded party infrastructure, but you are 100-150 yrs from it if you spend money every two years on Congressional races you can't win, every 4 yrs on presidential races you can't win and every 6 yrs on Senate races you can't win.

The state legislature doesn't cost that much. Make your case there. Once it's made, then you have funding influx and you're ready for the big time rather than taking 1-2% away from that which is preferable of the two viable options.

So PAY ATTENTION. It's not about standing in front of 50 people to get some applause. IT'S ABOUT MONEY. Get your funding infrastructure in place by NOT RUNNING FOR NATIONAL OFFICE. Get it solidified. Win the local races that fund-raising infrastructure can pay for. Then go for the big time.

[JTN]

If Liebertarians are going to run in elections, they are going to have to get used to having signatures challenged and everything else that comes with running, the same way EVERYONE else does.

The Chairman of the Illinois Libertarian Party saw Bush's petition for the 2004 election. It had exactly the minimum number of signatures required, which I believe was 5000. Suppose he had mounted a challenge to that petition. Do you think he couldn't have found even one bogus signature?

[Leonard210]

Libertarians are what the gop tries to claim that they are for, smaller government, and more personal freedom.

I have a close friend who is a sold-out libertarian. He went through a list that purported to be a sort of test of political philosophy with me. I could not see how I could answer without explanation, but once we were finished, he placed me in the Libertarian camp. I told him, however, that while I may be a "libertarian" I could never be a "Libertarian" because they do not seem to be "governors". It is the same with conservatives and liberals. They expound great philosophical arguments, yet when it comes to the dirty work of actually governing people, they can give no real detail. They have a list of what one should and should not do, but only Democrats and Republicans have a record of actually governing.

I said that to ask you a simple question. What personal freedom, that you do not have today, are you seeking from the federal government and how do you propose the nation change to guarantee that freedom?

[MassachusettsGOP]

The Republicans are a real party, with real voters. I think he would have had some trouble.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

...we've already seen political speech attacked by congress, and upheld by the SCOTUS. I'm pretty sure that religion will be next.

Where have you been? You are about 40 years late.

[JTN]

Welfare Reform

Hey, that's one thing in ten years! Great work! But it's a new decade now. How about something else?

Tax Cuts

With huge spending increases. When my taxes go back up to pay for them, I'll be sure to remember to thank you.

An America Terrorist free for 5 years

Uh, right.

Loosening of Gun Regulations

Thanks to Congressional Republicans, yes. Bush would have reauthorized the Assault Weapon Ban.

Conservatives on the High Courts

You can keep 'em.

A robust economy

You're one of those who believes that the political party in charge controls the economy, huh? Well, okay, believe what you want, but excuse me if I'm a bit sceptical that you were saying the same thing in the 90s.

And most of all, No Democrats in Power

Just Republicans. Big difference.

Partial Privatization of Social Security

I guess you didn't notice, but this has been dropped.

Elimination of the Death Tax

Maybe Ted Turner's kids care. I don't. I don't stand to inherit millions of dollars.

Winning the War in Iraq

Let me know when that happens. Assuming I don't die of old age first.

More Conservative Appointees

Again, you can keep 'em.

Reforming Immigration (the House way)

No thanks.

And defending our Religion

A telling statement. "We" don't have a religion (I think there's something in the Constitution about this). People have religions. Different people have different religions. It's up to the various churches to defend their religions, not Congressional Republicans.

our Language, Our Borders, our Culture from the grasps of the Communistic turn-tail Demo-RATS.

They don't need defending. In spite of what whackjobs from Frontpage and World Nut Daily will tell you, our language and culture are doing just fine.

Yup, just let the Democrats win. Great Work! Some people actually care about America, I guess you're not one of them.

America has survived with Democrats in charge in the past. It will survive whoever is in charge in the future. Relax. If we've made through six years of you bozos being in charge, we'll make it through another round of Democrats.

[JTN]

In Texas there is no Republican on the ballot to replace Tom Delay, so it's a race between Libertarian Bob Smither and a Democrat. The Republicans are vowing to mount a futile write-in challenge, even though Smither has said he will vote for Republican leadership. What's their problem? Shouldn't they just vote for our guy? Do they want to throw the race to the Democrats?

[elkfersupper]

Reading the exchange between the two of you is enough for any thinking person to decide which political party one should align with,

Amen.

[elkfersupper]

Marriage is a public act that requires statutory license...

Not everywhere. Some states still have common-law marriage.

[elkfersupper]

Until you win state legislature seats and accumulate the legislative experience that comes with those, you are only serving as a spoiler.

We had a libertarian Governor in NM (thinly-disguised as a Republican), who won two terms despite there being no elected Libertarians.

He did an excellent job by the way, and intends to run for President in 2012.

[tpaine]

The Liberaltarians propose:
The destruction of our society through;
No Drug Laws
No Abortion Laws
No Immigration Laws
A withdrawal from Iraq and any defense of America overseas
A repeal of the Patriot Act
The Cutting and Destruction of our Military and its Budget.

Cut the Crap, --- You want to have smaller government, join the Republican Liberty Caucus and get your priorities straight.



Proposed new Libertarian party platform

Address:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1656559/post

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

Some states still have common-law marriage.

Which are only applicable to heterosexual couples by statutory declaration and court decree... it is still subject to statutory regulation...