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1 posted on 09/01/2006 8:35:40 PM PDT by dukeman
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To: dukeman

"pledged allegiance to the Church of Rome"

Is this what Catholics do?

Do they pledge allegiance to the Lord?


2 posted on 09/01/2006 8:49:03 PM PDT by ryan71
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If he leaves the Democratic Party, he will take a journey many observing Catholics have already taken.

As a Catholic, you have to ask what tenets of the Catholic Church does the Democratic Party platform support. The answer is very little. Once a Catholic can separate in his mind the concept of real charity freely given from the costly government social programs collected at the point of a gun, there is nothing to keep him in the Democratic Party.

I still can't figure out what sort of Catholicism they are teaching in Massachusetts.


3 posted on 09/01/2006 8:55:31 PM PDT by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality"--Ayn Rand)
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NO, hell no


6 posted on 09/01/2006 9:00:40 PM PDT by Porterville (Hispanic Republican American Bush Supporter)
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Carlin is right about the diverging paths of the Catholic church and the democrat party. I am curious why he has for so many years been mulling over the logical step of separating himself from the stinking carcass of the democrat party and putting his vote where it will actually support his faith and his country. He sounds like a good person and I will get his book or ask the library to order it. Maybe the answer to my question is already written.
9 posted on 09/01/2006 9:05:05 PM PDT by mountainfolk (God bless President George Bush)
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Even as Carlin served the party he loved — twelve years as a Rhode Island state senator and once a candidate for Congress — he could only watch in dismay as its national leaders abandoned their blue-collar, pro-life, and religious constituencies and took up with NOW, Hollywood, and the abortion lobby.

Dems threw the Catholics away -- and got Hollywood in exchange? Dems really are stupid...

11 posted on 09/01/2006 9:06:04 PM PDT by GOPJ (Note to MSM - when dems say "jump", you don't have to ask "how high".)
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Why the angst? Just Leave the Democratic Party.

Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200.

12 posted on 09/01/2006 9:10:46 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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"Indeed, Carlin here asks whether today it’s even possible to be both a faithful Catholic and a Democratic true believer."

The answer is, it's not. One can be a democrat OR one can be a faithful Catholic. One cannot be both unless they're suffering from multiple personality disorder.

Next question please?


13 posted on 09/01/2006 9:13:58 PM PDT by Rightfootforward
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As the parties stand today, seems impossible to be both Catholic and a Democrat. But tomorrow, if some republicans have their way it may be equally impossible to vote for some of them. (I am a republican Catholic). In fact I would be hard put to vote for president Bush again given his approval of the morning after pill.

But what then? We are obligated, as Catholics to vote. As Catholics we may never choose the lesser evil but only the greater good. And that is becoming more and more of a problem as the secular world even in conservative politics becomes less in line with the same morals as many religions have.

It is scary.


19 posted on 09/01/2006 9:56:50 PM PDT by CatholicLady
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When I was a kid, both sides, the Greek Orthodox and the Irish Catholic, of my large extended family were good Democrats. Today virtually none of them are and those that are tend to vote Republican. They all say the same thing, the Democratic Party more than left them, it became the enemy of virtually everything they were taught to believe.


20 posted on 09/02/2006 4:44:56 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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Ask Joe Lieberman - Can a JEW be a Democrat?


22 posted on 09/02/2006 4:52:41 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup ("Is it real? Or is it Reuters?")
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Ask Joe Lieberman - Can a JEW be a Democrat?

Sure just tap your shoes together and suspend all your religious beliefs!
23 posted on 09/02/2006 4:53:32 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup ("Is it real? Or is it Reuters?")
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I left the Liberal party when I saw what the MSM and Lib Senators did to Justice Clarence Thomas during the hearings, which I watched intently. It was apparent from the TV coverage that the Democrats and Main Stream Media were lying about what was going on in the Senate chambers.

I was a Liberal who thought abortion took a human life and I realized that the Libs attacked Thomas because they perceived a threat to their beloved slaughter houses (abortion facilities).

Their continuing smears of him only reassure me that I did the right thing.

27 posted on 11/06/2006 6:58:53 AM PST by syriacus (Make calls to help Santorum -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1732142/posts)
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Can a Catholic Be a Democrat?

Yes, if the Democrat is a nun. There was a thread in here yesterday on the issue.

30 posted on 11/06/2006 7:14:30 AM PST by madison10 (Live your life in such a way that the preacher won't have to lie at your funeral.)
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I asked my mother, a Catholic and a pseudo-conservative-union-democrat, this same question a couple of years ago.

She responded, "Well what have the republicans done to stop abortion?"

Admittedly, the republicans have done disappointingly little. The partial-birth abortion ban was something, but was a politically safe thing to support. Abortion doesn't even seem to be a campaign issue this year.

My brother-in-law is a priest and a liberal-democrat. I asked him the same question. His response: "Well, I consider 'pro-life' to encompass a whole set of life issues." Which, of course, is dilusional and dilutes the fact that abortion is murder.

Because the democrats blatently support abortion, it is difficult to be a democrat-Catholic. The ones that I know have to do a lot of mental twisting to make the two belief systems compatable. However the lack of action from the republicans (and a growing pro-abortion element in the GOP) significantly weakens the argument and helps with the moral anguish of the democrat-Catholics.


31 posted on 11/06/2006 7:27:54 AM PST by kidd
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