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To: CTMRIop

Yes, but the point is that you shouldn't go into a situation like that thinking that at the first sign of difficulty, you can always "convert" to Islam and all will be well. That's presuming on God's mercy.

You have to think that you must and will resist. If human weakness overtakes you, well, then God will understand, I am sure. But you can't start out ready to give in to them, which it sounds as if you are.

One of the bad things about such an act, on a practical level, is that you weaken all the rest of us and you give the enemy enormous propaganda material. Suppose the Nazis had been capturing our guys and broadcasting on the radio their adherences to Hitler, complete with groveling renunciations of the US?

The fact that I have seen so many people here on FR cheerfully proclaiming that they would adhere to Islam at the mere threat of torture is very depressing. And these journalists weren't even tortured - they were mistreated and afraid, but nothing had really been done to them at that point.


100 posted on 09/01/2006 12:57:47 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius

"The fact that I have seen so many people here on FR cheerfully proclaiming that they would adhere to Islam at the mere threat of torture is very depressing. And these journalists weren't even tortured - they were mistreated and afraid, but nothing had really been done to them at that point."

I think you're exaggerating. I've read a lot of these posts, and mostly people are saying that after weeks of being held under duress, and after torture, they can understand people saying things that denounce America, Christ, or whatever.

I've never stated that I would be banging down the terrorists door to make a tape. I'm talking about extreme duress. I thought that was obvious, but if it wasn't I'm clearing that up now.


108 posted on 09/01/2006 1:39:04 PM PDT by CTMRIop ("From a pagoda, the world is so tidy." Brian Eno)
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