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To: RusIvan; Convert from ECUSA; Salem; sheik yerbouty; ex-Texan; familyop; American in Israel; ...
"Seems for you Israel as the wife of Ceasar is out of suspicions?:)"

Unlike you, I support Israel.

The West must be far more suspicious of Putin's long term agenda. Moscow's arming of proxy terrorist states such as Iran and Syria, who in turn wage their war of terror against Israel, plus American, British and other Coalition forces combating the enemy in Iraq & Afghanistan.

The exposed platoon of Putinistas (of which you belong) continue slithering around FR attempting to spread their obvious disinformation in addition to attacking anyone & everyone who clearly state the facts concerning Putin's deep involvement with the Axis of Evil.

Your deliberate word usage as in "Each side wants the Palestine land for herself.." is arch typical of similar propaganda by blatant Arabists. Attempting to de-legitimize Israel is always the first step from those whose goal is the total destruction of the Jewish state of Israel.

There you go again, the Russian mouth piece speaking as an Arab propagandist:

"The controversy between Arabs and Jews are NOT religious or any ideological. It is the dispute for the LAND."

With only about 8,000 sq. miles of land mass it is roughly two times the size of Rhode Island. Israel is 260 miles at its longest, has a 112-mile coastline, is 60 miles at its widest, and between 3 and 9 miles at its narrowest. The nation of Israel is surrounded by twenty-two hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships that are 640 times her size and 60 times her population. There are 13 million Jews in the world (almost 5 million fewer than they were in 1939) and 300 million Arabs.

In the case of anti-Western Islamic (Persian) Iran, a rouge terrorist exporting OPEC state Russian is arming at an alarming rate. What are the "land" issues with Israel? Why would the Kremlin be selling advanced weapons to a jihadist exporting dictatorship whose leadership has publicly sworn to exterminate Israel, and the Jewish people on a worldwide basis?

When members of the "Religion of Peace" slammed jumbo jets into tall New York buildings, filled with thousands of people from all over the world, were those Muslims disputing "land"?


40 posted on 09/04/2006 3:23:54 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not free)
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To: M. Espinola

The exposed platoon of Putinistas (of which you belong) continue slithering around FR attempting to spread their obvious disinformation in addition to attacking anyone & everyone who clearly state the facts concerning Putin's deep involvement with the Axis of Evil.==

Putin cares about Russia as he think it is better for her. He is the president of Russia not USA or Israel. So he obviously provide the russian business on weaponry.
Iran and Syria are customers who bring the hard curenncies. If Israel and USA were customers then Putin listen thier grieves more carefully.

Your deliberate word usage as in "Each side wants the Palestine land for herself.." is arch typical of similar propaganda by blatant Arabists. ==

The "Palestine" is georgraphical definition. If you listen The Discovery Civilization channel you heard it a lot:).
Then blame the Discovery Civilization of arab propaganda not me:). BTW same channel spead "vicious lies" about jewish organisation HAGANA which was the "terrorists" againt british soldiers.
The Discovery Civilization is anti-semites:).


44 posted on 09/04/2006 8:00:36 AM PDT by RusIvan ("THINK!" the motto of IBM)
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To: M. Espinola; RusIvan; SJackson; yonif; Simcha7; American in Israel; Slings and Arrows; ...
Excellent defense of Israel at post 40 as usual, M. Espinola. I suppose Russian interests in the Nation of Israel would not be the same as America, as Israel is our only true ally in the Middle East—and therefore, in direct competition with Russian geo-political, strategic, and energy interests in the region.

Friend and author David J. Jonsson, in his recent book, Islamic Economics and the Final Jihad: The Muslim Brotherhood to the Leftist/Marxist - Islamist Alliance, states:

"Before the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) meeting in July 2005, Russian and China’s leaders met at the Kremlin on July 1 to discuss their goals in Central Asia and the upcoming G-8 summit. The meeting signaled a shift toward greater cooperation between the two states, completely solved their long-standing border disputes from the legal perspective, and laid the foundation for greater integration of their state-controlled oil companies and banking sectors. One reason that the atmosphere in the Kremlin was so unusually amiable was the perception that a shared threat loomed larger than their differences in policy goals; that threat was Washington’s role in Central Asia. SCO is a permanent intergovernmental international organization proclaimed in Shanghai on June 15, 2001, by six countries: People’s Republic of China, Russian Federation, Republic of Kazakhstan, Republic of Kyrgyzstan, Republic of Tajikistan and Republic of Uzbekistan. The total area occupied by SCO member-states is about 30,189,000 km2, or about three-fifths the territory of Eurasia, with a population of 1.455 billion people, or about a quarter of total population of the world. Add to this, the countries selected to join as observers: Iran, India and Pakistan, and this is truly formidable." [Page 287]

"...On a global scale, the emergence of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), a four-year-old regional grouping dominated by Moscow and Beijing, is significant. As explained in an earlier chapter, SCO members include China, Russia, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan and Tajikistan. India, Pakistan,.Mongolia, and Iran were given observer status just this year (2005) in the grouping, which has become a prime vehicle for Russia and China to challenge United States’ influence in the region. Without question, the SCO is being carefully crafted as a geopolitical counterweight to the United States. If it does mature as a competing body to the European Union and NATO, it could signify a dramatic shift in the current geostrategic balance of power that currently favors Washington. In an interview on August 30, 2005, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov said Russia’s unprecedented military exercises with China had gone so well the month before that they may be expanded to include several Central and South Asian countries. He added, 'Do not rule out that the armed forces, not only of China and Russia, but of other members of the SCO that will take part, including perhaps the countries that are observers [India, Pakistan, Mongolia and Iran] with SCO.'

Politics makes strange bedfellows, stranger still, when the odd couple is the fundamentalist Islam and the secular Left...." [Page 410]

RusIvan's comments Putin's arm's deals in the Middle East are "just business" is disingenuous. While America openly supports the Nation of Israel in the Middle East, Russia's intentions are certainly less than forward. Especially their support of Iran's nuclear program which is certainly on a weapons grade track, and inevitably pointed towards Israel ... and inevitably America.

Whoever said the Cold War was over should be slapped.













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47 posted on 09/04/2006 9:23:29 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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62 posted on 09/05/2006 6:33:03 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Mid East Ceasefire = Israel ceases but her enemies fire)
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