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To: MHGinTN; HayekRocks; Alamo-Girl; hosepipe; marron; .30Carbine
For by God almighty we always understand the Father. Yet this is not to limit the power of the Son. For he doth whatsoever he seeth the Father do; but to acknowledge that all power is originally in the Father and that the Son hath [no] power in him but what he derives from the Father, for he professes that of himself he can do nothing.

Hi MHGinTN! It may have been naughty of me; but the only way I could make sense of the above quote was to insert the bracketed [no]. When I pray, I pray to the Father, in the name of the Son (Logos, the Word of the Father). From the two proceeds the Holy Spirit, which "moves" and is active in souls in this world. God is One; but still I believe that One is hierarchically trinitarian in form. If we can speak of God has having "form" or "movement" at all, and we really can't. :^). (Because such categories only have meaning within 4D spacetime constraints.)

'Tis a mystery that I prefer not to reduce to a "doctrinal statement." Any such doctrinal statement about the nature of God is practically guaranteed to be either wrong or completely unprovable. Plus the semantic quibbles sure to follow rarely get you anywhere. :^) For myself, I just like to KISS -- to "keep things simple [stupid]."

The only essential point to bear in mind is "God is love; and who lives in love lives in God and God in him."

Well, FWIW. Please people, don't jump all over me if you don't like my take on this: You're entitled to your own view of the matter, according to the way the Holy Spirit leads you -- which I honor and respect.

Thank you so much Marvin, for detailing Keynes' take on this for me (us).

440 posted on 09/03/2006 11:52:15 AM PDT by betty boop (Beautiful are the things we see...Much the most beautiful those we do not comprehend. -- N. Steensen)
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To: betty boop
I only came across that passage from Newton's works when hayek Rocks posted the links ... been reading furiously ever since!

I was once given the analopgy of water for the trinity; God in three persons just as water may take any of three states: water vapor, liquid, or ice. The theme of threes appears to be a deeply rooted one with this universe and from that I conclude the analogy is apropos. That's one reason why I use the notion of dimensions having three variable expressions (as in space expresses linear, planar, volumetric; time expresses past, present, future; life force expresses will, emotion, and mind; haven't the depth of seeing to discern the three expressions of spirit dimension, though)

443 posted on 09/03/2006 12:17:11 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: betty boop; MHGinTN

NIV Colossians 1:19-20
19. For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him,
20. and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.


475 posted on 09/05/2006 5:58:47 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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