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To: b_sharp

"This interest coupled with his/her ability to see our future means that God will know both the time and the content of decisions each of us will make in the future."

I disagree. God knows how it will end, but whether we are there to enjoy it, is up to us. There are many times that God tested man's choice without intervention: 1) Adam and Eve in the garden of eden in having sexual relations thus producing the tree of life and shame for doing something they were told would have great reprocussions. 2) Destroying man through the flood with Noah because we got out of control, and then stating He wouldn't do it again with water, but with fire; 3) Arguing with Moses because Moses felt he couldn't speak to Pharaoah because he was scared so he told Noah to take his brother Aaron to speak for him., etc...
God to not give man freewill to choose to worship is an insincere worship. What joy is that? Might as well be ants in an ant farm. He gets great pleasure of a man that has chosen to live a destructive life and then returns to Him and rectify the ills. This is free will and this is how He made us. Predetermination is of events and outcomes of a greater level. We have to choose to decide if we want to be part of that outcome. A football team can still win games even if a couple of players decide not to give their all. The score, record, and outcome will still stand. And eventually, those players will be forgotten.


248 posted on 09/01/2006 10:38:19 AM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?")
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
1) Adam and Eve in the garden of eden in having sexual relations thus producing the tree of life and shame for doing something they were told would have great reprocussions.

Huh??

308 posted on 09/01/2006 1:38:14 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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