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CA: Does governor practice good or honest politics?
Ventura Star ^ | 8/31/06 | Thomas D. Elias

Posted on 08/31/2006 11:34:06 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

Good politics is usually defined as anything that gets votes for a candidate. Honest politics means telling the voters what you will really do if elected.

The jury is still out on which sort of politics are practiced by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

For sure, he frequently uses sleight of hand and illusion to position himself in ways more compatible to most Californians than what he's really done.

One example came when Schwarzenegger went before a bank of 16 television cameras to propose a "low-cost prescription drug plan" he said would lower the cost of needed medicines for millions of Californians. Good politics, no doubt, because as his press release pointed out, the high cost of prescriptions is "one of the most important consumer issues in California."

But was it honest politics? That's a legitimate question in light of the governor's concerted campaigning last year against the defeated Proposition 79, which would have forced pharmaceutical companies to offer drug discounts in California.

Schwarzenegger instead promoted a voluntary program where drug companies could offer discounts if they wished. None has done so yet, and Schwarzenegger's new plan would give them at least five more years to act.

Meanwhile, he's vetoed six bills aiming to lower drug costs in California, including one requiring the state to reimport some drugs from Canada at the reduced prices prevailing there and others to set up a Web site posting information on drug prices, including comparisons of drug prices here and in Canada.

Does Schwarzenegger really favor cheaper drugs, as he says? Or does he favor continued windfall profits for pharmaceutical companies, which donate millions to his various campaign committees? That's a question for voters to decide by comparing the governor's words with what he does.

Then there's the issue of greenhouse gases and global warming. Upon seeing former Vice President Al Gore's movie warning of "An Inconvenient Truth," Schwarzenegger allowed that he "loved" the film and that Gore is right to go about the world warning of imminent danger. He staged a "fantastic" photo op with British Prime Minister Tony Blair to sign an essentially toothless agreement to fight global warming together. Good politics in a state that his re-election challenger Phil Angelides calls "the home of 80 percent of the world's environmental activists."

But honest politics? That's for voters to decide after they watch the incumbent's efforts to soften tough anti-greenhouse gas bills now working their way through the Legislature.

Similarly, it was good politics for Schwarzenegger to announce as he declared for office in 2003 that he would take no campaign donations from any special interests. After all, the Gray Davis recall election he was entering had been spurred largely by Davis' apparent practice of "pay-to-play" government.

But was it honest politics? That's another one for voters to ponder in the light of Schwarzenegger taking more than $200 million over three years from corporations and executives of businesses, most of whom do business with state government.

The same with campaign finance reform. Schwarzenegger vows repeatedly to clean up politics, including a proposal to ban campaign contributions during the entire state budget approval process. Good politics, for sure.

But is it honest politics? Voters should decide based on Schwarzenegger's record. Rather than foreswearing fundraising during the budget process this year, the governor instead raised tens of millions of dollars. And he opposes Proposition 89, with its planned public financing of campaigns as a means of diminishing the influence of big donors. His reason: the proposition proposes a minuscule 0.2 percent increase in the corporate tax rate to raise the needed money.

If Republican Schwarzenegger wins re-election in this now predominantly Democratic state using these tactics and others, it will surely have been a classic in good politics. It will also mean that voters have concluded that his politics were at least honest enough to suit them.

— Thomas D. Elias, of Santa Monica, is a columnist and author.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; good; governor; honest; politics; practice; schwarzenegger

1 posted on 08/31/2006 11:34:06 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
Arnold honest?

What happened to not taking any special interest money Arnold?

2 posted on 08/31/2006 11:39:31 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: NormsRevenge
I'll give him credit: at least he's not running around telling people's he's a conservative. In liberal Arnold, what you see is what you get.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

3 posted on 08/31/2006 11:43:12 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: shotgun ed

Nobody is worse than Gray Davis.


5 posted on 08/31/2006 11:54:19 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: 1035rep
I said on the other thread Arnold makes Davis look downright conservative! So much for incremental steps towards conservatism. As calcowgirl said to me, we're taking huge leaps - towards socialism! This state is well on its way towards becoming the great late state of California.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

6 posted on 08/31/2006 11:56:25 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

I live here also, and nobody is worse than Davis.


7 posted on 08/31/2006 11:59:53 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: goldstategop
Except maybe Angelides. He would finish us off.
8 posted on 08/31/2006 12:01:46 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: 1035rep
Until you realize he didn't stuff paganism down our throats and he didn't push on us the global warming mandate that threatens to shut down our state's economy. I still live here - for now.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

9 posted on 08/31/2006 12:02:49 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: 1035rep
Either way, we'll be finished off. Choose your poison.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

10 posted on 08/31/2006 12:03:35 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: 1035rep

"I live here also, and nobody is worse than Davis."

(I know what you meant, you were comparing him to Arnold and there is no question that Arnold is a major improvement over Angelides. But just try Angelides.

Gray Davis is a "right winger" in comparison. Angelides is a 24K socialist. People can't imagine the damage that he, together with the leftist Dem Legislature can and would do to the state, if he would get elected.

Arnold is orders of magnitude better than either of them -- he held the line on taxes, vetoed the homosexual marriage bill, vetoed the illegal aliens bill, will veto the universal healthcare single payer socialist medicine bill, reformed workman's comp, AND put conservatives propositions on the ballot, which were defeated by the voters, because the union thugs got out the vote and the conservatives stayed home and now they are blaming Arnold for their own failure to provide Arnold with the tools he needs to reform CA.


People who keep claiming that there is no difference between Arnold and Angelides are either totally deluded and detached from reality, or are deliberately trying to help Angelides get elected.


11 posted on 08/31/2006 12:14:04 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion
There IS no difference between them. Arnold is FOR massive borrowing, FOR paganism and FOR a costly enviro wacko mandate that will shut down California's economy. Conservatives should have nothing to do with them. A liberal is STILL a liberal, regardless of party.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

12 posted on 08/31/2006 12:17:33 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: NormsRevenge
It doesn't matter at this point whether Schwarzy practices good or honest politics. Enough Califorians are convinced that only Arnold can do the job.

Next up: Rudy Giuliani.

13 posted on 08/31/2006 12:23:18 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't support amnesty and conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: FairOpinion
Yes, that's what I meant. AND there is a huge difference between Arnold and Angelides.  Angelides would kill this state with his agenda.


 

14 posted on 08/31/2006 12:40:42 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: 1035rep
Arnold is killing it with costly borrowing, regulations and mandates on business. I fail to see where Angelides would make it worse.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

15 posted on 08/31/2006 1:26:44 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: All; NormsRevenge

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Gov. ARNOLD is not afraid to fight for the Freedom of others:


http://gov.ca.gov/index.php?/press-release/3162/
(Gov. ARNOLD's official website's Press Release & Photo Essay)

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16 posted on 08/31/2006 1:43:00 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.comr)
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To: 1035rep
Nobody is worse than Gray Davis.

An opinion that may be valid but not germane to the issue at hand.

These discussions are not about Democrats, liberal or conservative. They are about conservatism, the Schwarzenegger administration and the support his administration is receiving from the CAGOP.

Is Schwarzenegger the least bit conservative? Should the CAGOP support a liberal? Should conservatives vote for a liberal? Should Republicans vote for a liberal?

These questions outline the debate, not Gray Davis' administration. The debate is not comparative. A candidate either is, or is not a conservative, based on his actions, not his actions when compared to the real or hypothetical actions of another candidate.

17 posted on 08/31/2006 4:02:51 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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