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Experts: Reuters jeep not hit by missile [Busted Again]
YNet ^ | Aug. 31, 2006 | Yaakov Lappin

Posted on 08/31/2006 10:58:57 AM PDT by Alouette

Following Reuters report that its armored vehicle was hit by IDF, expert says: 'Damage on vehicle sustained long time ago, probably not by rocket'

Representatives of two armored vehicle manufacturers cast doubt on claims by Reuters that its armored vehicle had been struck by an Israeli air strike in Gaza.

Last week, Reuters condemned the IDF and demanded an investigation after it said one of its armored vehicles, containing a Palestinian journalist and a Reuters photographer, had been struck.

But experts from Inkas Armored Vehicle Manufacturing and First Defense International Group, both armored vehicle manufacturers, told the Confederate Yankee blog that photographs of the damaged jeep were not consistent with the Reuters claim.

"I wanted support to prove or disprove these allegations, and so I went to the people who should know most about the kind of vehicles damaged in the attack, armored vehicle manufacturers themselves," the author of the Confederate Blog, Bob Owens wrote.

David Khazanski, of Inkas Armored Vehicle Manufacturing, told Owens: "The damage on the vehicle was sustained a very long time ago, and probably not by the rocket, or it was already tampered with."

'Not consistent with missiles'

Chris Badsey, Chairman and CEO of armored vehicle manufacture First Defense International Group, analyzed the photo of the Reuters jeep. He told Owens: "Firstly as an armoring company we are familiar with all weapons, weapons damage, collateral damage and the destruction of armored vehicles from blasts and various types of rockets and ammunition. Secondly we are familiar with the Israeli weapons of choice and uses in the field as we continue to work with them and have a manufacturing relationship with them… In my expert opinion, the damage, the whole is NOT consistent of a Hellfire Missile or of a 70mm rocket nor any armored piercing/trajectory."

He added: "The damage to the roof looks to me very consistent with possible shrapnel penetration from an object other than a rocket or missile itself… The damage to the back window is certainly not consistent with any missile, bomb or rocket blast that would have occurred on impact if a rocket were fired around and directly at the vehicle."

"From what these experts tell me, it does not appear that the vehicle Reuters claimed was hit was hit either by a rocket or a missile, that the damage appears to be some time prior to the attack… Something damaged this Reuters armored vehicle, but when and how seems to be very much in doubt," Owens concluded.

At the time, the IDF said it fired on a suspicious vehicle, but added that it did not identify a press jeep in the area. "During the operation, there was an aerial attack on a suspicious vehicle that drove in a suspicious manner right by the forces and in between the Palestinian militant posts," army spokeswoman Captain Noa Meir said.

Other blogs have discussed other possibilites, with the Hot Air site writing: "The leading alternate theory is that it was shrapnel. And yes, that’s an important distinction, although not as important as some might think. If a rocket hit the van, it proves that the IAF was aiming at it. If it was shrapnel, it suggests that they were aiming at something else, which would put the kibosh on hysterical claims that Israel is targeting the media."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: busted; confederateyankee; hotair; lies; reuters
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1 posted on 08/31/2006 10:58:59 AM PDT by Alouette
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2 posted on 08/31/2006 10:59:22 AM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 39-43)
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but when and how seems to be very much in doubt

Looks like a meteorite must have whacked them. Could be that spatula they lost from the space shuttle the other day...
3 posted on 08/31/2006 11:06:27 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Alouette

Oddly, the only evidence of the real attackers were large jerseys left by very tall men from Houston.

4 posted on 08/31/2006 11:08:19 AM PDT by pikachu (Be alert --we need more lerts!)
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To: P-40
Looks like a meteorite must have whacked them.


Either that, or a very relieved seagull.
5 posted on 08/31/2006 11:09:34 AM PDT by freedomlover (This tagline has been pulled - - - - Okay?)
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To: Alouette

"Al Reuters" of the future Britainistan..


6 posted on 08/31/2006 11:09:36 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: P-40
Looks like a meteorite must have whacked them.

Could'a been Cynthia McKinney for that matter...

7 posted on 08/31/2006 11:11:28 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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8 posted on 08/31/2006 11:13:44 AM PDT by Dallas59 (ISLAMOFASCISM!!!!)
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To: Alouette
It was a meteor.
9 posted on 08/31/2006 11:15:48 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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To: Alouette

How long befor the Reuters employees and stringers are fired, and all their work removed from circulation?


10 posted on 08/31/2006 11:15:59 AM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: Alouette

Small mortar shell?


11 posted on 08/31/2006 11:17:12 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Alouette

Reuters, fake but acurate. Boy Dan Blather is gonna be real P.Oed. They're tramping around in his territory.


12 posted on 08/31/2006 11:32:31 AM PDT by Waco
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Here, let me see that trigger. I won't miss!


13 posted on 08/31/2006 11:37:42 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (I gigged your peace frog.)
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To: Alouette

No one in Gaza is gonna kidnap Reuters journalists.


14 posted on 08/31/2006 11:41:05 AM PDT by aynrandfreak (The Left hates America)
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Looks more like damage from a grenade or some kind of incindiary device. Perhpas dropped from a window as it passed underneath...

A Hellfire missle would have turned that vehicle inside out. As would a 70mm rocket.


15 posted on 08/31/2006 11:47:02 AM PDT by PsyOp (No reading is more necessary than that of Machiavelli…. - Clauswitz, On War, 1832.)
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Perhpas Perhaps.
16 posted on 08/31/2006 11:48:50 AM PDT by PsyOp (No reading is more necessary than that of Machiavelli…. - Clauswitz, On War, 1832.)
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To: Dallas59

Where's green helmet guy?


17 posted on 08/31/2006 11:49:57 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: Alouette

A missile would have blown that vehicle to pieces.


18 posted on 08/31/2006 11:52:39 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Alouette
One of these things is not like the other:

Reuters auto:

Real autos destroyed by real missiles:

19 posted on 08/31/2006 11:57:27 AM PDT by sanchmo (If we wish to learn what was going on in Europe in 1938, just look around - V.D. Hanson)
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To: PsyOp

yeah... saying that that's rocket damage is like pointing to a papercut and saying "shotgun blast"
or like John Kerry pointing to one of his Purple Hearts ....


20 posted on 08/31/2006 12:11:42 PM PDT by verum ago (Proper foreign policy makes loud noises.)
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