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Fighting Terror With Estrogen (Don Feder On The Myth Of Girly Men Making The World Secure Alert)
Frontpagemag.com ^ | 08/31/06 | Don Feder

Posted on 08/31/2006 1:21:21 AM PDT by goldstategop

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Can the girly man - the metrosexual keep the world secure? To put it bluntly, estrogen has no more chance against Islamofascism than it has against the violent drifters who enter Deadwood. No woman can best a man intent to do her harm by a mere appeal and no girly man can keep the world safe from harm either by the same since that road of softness, epitomized by the twins of appeasement and surrender, lead to national suicide. Violence and testosterone swagger, as politically incorrect as it appears to the likes of Robyn Blumner, is all that stands between her wearing a chador, being flogged for insolence and being executed as a Zionist spy. The Mahmoud Ahmedinejads of the world do not respect displays of sensitivity and compassion from weak souls. They are deterred only by the prospect of complete destruction being visited upon them if they test those armed to the teeth. For that reason, Don Feder is correct on our course in the War On Terror: "better to dodge bullets in the streets of Deadwood than to push up daisies on Boot Hill."

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

1 posted on 08/31/2006 1:21:25 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

if only God would turn all male muslims into eunuchs....


2 posted on 08/31/2006 1:24:21 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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ARTICLE SNIPPET: "But, no, Ms. Blumner is serious. She wants to feminize national security – to take decisions of survival out of the hands of "macho" males and substitute weeping for weapons, sentimentality for strategy and negotiations for no-nonsense."

FACT: Ms. Blumner is wrong.

3 posted on 08/31/2006 1:30:34 AM PDT by Cindy
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Ms. Blumner is serious. She wants to feminize national security – to take decisions of survival out of the hands of "macho" males and substitute weeping for weapons, sentimentality for strategy and negotiations for no-nonsense.

But once a month she would become a raging bull and would lay waste anyone who crossed her.

5 posted on 08/31/2006 2:08:53 AM PDT by JoeGar
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To: shotgun ed

She may be successful; but that doesn't mean she is right.


6 posted on 08/31/2006 2:10:26 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: goldstategop

Too stupid to stay alive.


7 posted on 08/31/2006 2:26:55 AM PDT by etcetera
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To: shotgun ed

We live in north county San Diego, the last normal place in California, and the boys here are being raised as men. Especially the Tom H children. All my kids are being taught to love their country, deliberately and not through osmosis. My son is being taught old-fashioned notions about manhood as regards to women and his duties to his country. Almost every man I know will be having his son join the Boy Scouts. So there's hope yet.


8 posted on 08/31/2006 2:28:12 AM PDT by tom h
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The point is that there are male ways of doing things and female ways. Both can work and both are needed in the world today, but there is a time and a place for everything. The fact that the feminine viewpoint has been "put down" over the centuries is wrong but its no reason why it has to be equally valid here and now and in this particular situation. When the blood and the snot are flying its a time for macho and hardness. When the fighting is over, perhaps then is when we need the "understanding" and the "feeling".

We need the masculine virtues to win this war, and the feminine ones to win the peace after. And like Tony Blair once said, we need to win both.


9 posted on 08/31/2006 3:36:46 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: goldstategop
Funny thing is, those REAL men actually DID settle a wild and untamed west.

All she needs to do is look at history...but that would be a bit much for her to handle.

Girlie men are fine when all that has to be done is to take out the trash and change the baby....and they are well-coiffed and smell fresh when they do it.

But, when the external, violent "real world" has to be dealt with - there ain't no girlie man consensus that will work. Sometimes, some bad people just need a good killin'.

The universe didn't make men and women different for a reason. And, the reason is women are, in general, supposed to take care of the home. Men, in general, are supposed to take care of the world.

Like all of the best solutions - it's VERY simple.

10 posted on 08/31/2006 3:45:43 AM PDT by KeepUSfree (WOSD = fascism pure and simple.)
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Real heroes have more going for them than testosterone (absolutely clueless)

A FR thread with her silly article.

11 posted on 08/31/2006 3:48:20 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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Girlie men are fine when all that has to be done is to take out the trash and change the baby...

Dang, I ain't no girlie man and I change my son's diaper all the time.

12 posted on 08/31/2006 3:49:58 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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This is quite abstract, shall we say. May I politely suggest you actually read up on how things went in the late 1940's before you make pallid nostrums the mission statement for 'winning the peace'. We forcefully occupied our former enemies, having a real nasty time due to all the leftover Nazis and madcap Japanese. In both places, gangsterism flourished (even Kurosawa noticed, see his film 'Stray Dog'). A heavy hand was needed, and the majority of the occupied people appreciated it. We had fought a harsh, horrible war and we had to maintain a harsh, wary peace until those who had gone so insane could be contained and eliminated or simply got too old to make any more trouble.

The case is the same now, only less so. What all who have their panties in a bunch about Iraq are complaining about is not a patch on what we had to do to maintain order in Germany and Japan. But did they actually do the reading anyone halfway educated on the subject requests, they would find they really don't have a moral leg to stand on, just a soapbox to screech from.

Like I say, read up on an full-frontal occupation of a defeated enemy and then get back to us.


13 posted on 08/31/2006 4:04:42 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow (www.stjosephssanford.org)
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"But once a month she would become a raging bull and would lay waste anyone who crossed her."

BWAAAAAHAAAAHAAA!


14 posted on 08/31/2006 4:09:44 AM PDT by poobear (Political Left, continually accusing their foes of what THEY themselves do every day.)
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To: goldstategop
But, no, Ms. Blumner is serious. She wants to feminize national security – to take decisions of survival out of the hands of "macho" males and substitute weeping for weapons, sentimentality for strategy and negotiations for no-nonsense.

As if the Moose will ever agree to a "weeping war"

15 posted on 08/31/2006 4:11:20 AM PDT by The Red Zone
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As long as you eat some raw meat beforehand - then you'll be fine.

Maybe go shoot something afterwards....(just to be on the safe side)

16 posted on 08/31/2006 4:24:54 AM PDT by KeepUSfree (WOSD = fascism pure and simple.)
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The Good Fight: Why Liberals---and Only Liberals---Can Win the War on Terror and Make America Great Again (Hardcover) = Amazon.com Sales Rank: #9,067 in Books
17 posted on 08/31/2006 4:30:56 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (What I do (sin) is proof of what I am (sinful).)
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A thread with the article in question....

U.S. could use more girlie men (B.Y.O.B.B.)

18 posted on 08/31/2006 4:37:53 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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"The Deadwood hero is impulsive, aggressive and macho, while the reality hero is a rational consensus-builder with an intelligent plan of action."

Actually, I favor an intelligent plan of action, like the one the Canadians recently used in Afghanistan to ambush and kill a whole bunch of Taliban. Woo-hoo!

Also, I am very suspicious of women with names like Robyn, with cutesy spellings. It indicates poor choice by the parents, who saddled their daughter with a name which works as a nick-name for a cute little girl, but doesn't age well. How are we supposed to take seriously an adult with a name like that?


19 posted on 08/31/2006 5:12:06 AM PDT by docbnj
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I think the whole article can be summed up in this one sentence:

"Blumner is able to prattle about the superiority of soft power and the feminine ethos over testosterone-laden gunslingers because men with guns suffered and died to preserve and protect a republic where human rights are enshrined. "

Which, probably not coincidentally, paraphrases Churchill's (according to Wikipedia). "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm."
20 posted on 08/31/2006 5:16:56 AM PDT by CertainInalienableRights
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