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The Return of 0% Financing (Autos)
WSJ ^ | 8/31/06 | JENNIFER SARANOW and GINA CHON

Posted on 08/30/2006 10:58:26 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

Beginning tomorrow, the Chrysler Group will begin offering 0% financing for up to 72 months until Sept. 30. Customers can also choose various cash-rebate offers instead of the financing. Chrysler offered its Employee Pricing Plus program until today,which included 0% financing for just 36 months or cash rebates for certain models.

Among other domestic auto makers, on top of the incentives programs it was already offering, GM on Tuesday began offering $500 to $1,500 cash back on many 2006 and 2007 models. GM was already offering a variety of incentives, including 0% financing for 36 months and $1,000 bonus cash on pickup-truck sales in Texas, California and Florida. Those offers end Sept. 5.

For Ford's Labor Day program, the Ford, Lincoln and Mercury brands are offering 0% financing for up to 72 months for 2006 models. The program, which ends Sept. 5, is also extended to customers with "good but not great credit," Ford says. Previously, Ford focused on regional incentives for 2006 models. The company has also lowered sticker prices for 2007 models to bring them closer in line with transaction prices, a similar strategy to one GM began pursuing in January.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: autos; cars; discounts
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1 posted on 08/30/2006 10:58:26 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

Why stop at zero?


2 posted on 08/30/2006 10:59:34 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: BurbankKarl

JUST GIVE ME THE DAMN VEHICLE FOR FREE!


3 posted on 08/30/2006 11:00:17 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (404 Page Error Found)
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To: Paleo Conservative

3 Toyota models at Zero Percent

Nissan offering no payments for 130 days


4 posted on 08/30/2006 11:02:00 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Plus one year of free fuel.


5 posted on 08/30/2006 11:02:35 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: BurbankKarl

This isn't good. Eventually consumers are going to expect 0% financing as a matter of course from Ford and GM, and then there goes the only consistently profitable divisions - the finance arms.

I know Ford is doing it to blow out their 91 days of inventory, and Chrysler's going to match them to also get rid of excess inventory, but still...


6 posted on 08/30/2006 11:03:34 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

GM sold their finance arm!


7 posted on 08/30/2006 11:07:22 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

I'm aware - but Ford hasn't sold theirs, and GM's is still loosely associated with them (GMAC still finances cars).


8 posted on 08/30/2006 11:09:16 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
They should just lower the prices, sell them for what they are actually worth. About $1200. for a sh*t box, and around 3500. for something a little more decent- like they were priced back in the 60's, when they were made of metal, and you could actually get $100 back for it when you took it to the recycler.

Now, you pay a fortune for auto workers medical plans, boob-jobs and sex changes, all for a piece of plastic with a steering wheel and 4 tires.

9 posted on 08/30/2006 11:10:05 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

Actually, they cost a lot more than that to make, in terms of materials alone.

Now, as to their actual worth... it's no secret that many domestic vehicles are worth more as parts then as actual cars, even as salvage.


10 posted on 08/30/2006 11:11:52 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

You'd be suprized how little the material cost is for a 4 cyl. plain Jane puddle jumper. It isn't much over $1200. There is only about $25 worth of metal on them after you strip all the foam and plastic off and take it to the recycler.


11 posted on 08/30/2006 11:16:14 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

Local Dodge dealer sent me a flyer. $139 per month for a 27 month lease for a loaded 4X4 Durango SUV. Not bad. But wait....it costs $6,100 down to get the $139 monthly payment. So 3,753 + 6,100 = $9,853. There nuts.


12 posted on 08/30/2006 11:20:21 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Spktyr

Even recycler's are having a harder time making money on junked cars, unless they strip and sort all the metals.

The heavest peice of steel ona little car today is the crankshaft, then the front drive axles. Blocks are alloy, transmission housings, rims are alloy.

Once you strip all the glass and plastic off the of the body, remove the engine, (power unit) steel struts, springs and control arms, 2 guys can easily pick up a car body. There just isn't much to them these days.


13 posted on 08/30/2006 11:27:55 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

Except that the foam and plastic takes a lot of oil to make, the car takes a lot of energy to make, and the aluminum, copper, platinum, etc., aren't cheap.

If you're not stupid, and you part the car out and strip all the saleable metals out of it, you can get $9K for a Geo Metro with a blown engine. My buddy just did that.


14 posted on 08/30/2006 11:32:43 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Actually, steel is relatively cheap. Copper and aluminum are sky high now. I just took in a winding from a Jaguar alternator I just junked, and I got $50 for that copper alone.


15 posted on 08/30/2006 11:34:05 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Westlander

Buy a used one in a year or two. Or just buy a new Pontiac sunfire for $12000. or less. (or a year old one for much less)
They don't hold their value very long. Unless you buy loan protection, you'd loose money if you wrecked it in a years time.


16 posted on 08/30/2006 11:35:00 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Spktyr

Didn't they already sell off their financing arms? Well they need cash flow so might as well do it for 0% and let people send them $500 checks every month than not.

They must be well marked up to cover the financing cost - which I assume must be about $5000 a car over a regular 48 month financing. It's the 72 months part that's scary. But it should also mean that they'd be willing to slash $5k off the price of the car for those who want to pay cash.

Also since they don't make many of their own parts, there is little to no revenue on repairs after warranty work. No ancillary income from the cars? Why? Maybe it was a bad idea to outsource so many of their parts.


17 posted on 08/30/2006 11:41:40 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: Spktyr
I junk cars all the time. (My wife and kids go through a lot of cars) I'd like to see you get 9k for the metal value on a Geo. There's only 400 lbs of steel on the body. A recycler will give you $25 a ton IF it's stripped of all plastic and glass, seats. Maybe if you parted it out you could make more. But then why would anyone take apart a car that wasn't wrecked in the first place? Even then, nobody will buy you seats, cheap radio, dash. What sells are doors, winshields, fenders, motor and trans, axles. But that's not 9K worth. The whole car new wasn't worth 9k
18 posted on 08/30/2006 11:43:09 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary
Now, you pay a fortune for...boob-jobs...

I traded my wife's boob job for this.


19 posted on 08/30/2006 11:47:02 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: monkeyshine

No, actually, they've slashed their prices rather than marking them up, so they're not hiding their financing cost that way.

Ford still has their credit arm, GM sold theirs, but still uses it to finance cars.


20 posted on 08/30/2006 11:48:56 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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