Etiam non princeps sed usque ad genua, Principis Pacis!
Posted on 08/30/2006 3:19:02 PM PDT by Stone Mountain
Cardinal Warns About Colombia Abortion
BOGOTA, Colombia (AP) -- A leading cardinal said the Vatican will excommunicate the doctors who performed Colombia's first legal abortion on an 11-year old girl who allegedly was raped by her stepfather.
Cardinal Alfonso Lopez Trujillo, president of the Vatican's Pontifical Council for the Family, made the announcement in an interview with RCN television Tuesday.
''Every Christian Catholic who submits to an abortion, whether it be directly or indirectly, will be excommunicated,'' Lopez said.
It was not immediately clear if he also was referring to the girl and her family.
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The secretary of Colombia's Episcopal Conference, Monsignor Fabian Marulanda, said he doubted that the Vatican would take the formal steps of excommunicating the doctors, but that the doctors should consider themselves excommunicated until they submit to penance.
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"What word games? I asked you to what your position would be in a hypothetical case, and you have so far refused to answer."
You remind me of old George Carlin albums. "Hey, fodda. If God is all-powerful, can He make a rock so big that He Himself can't lift it? Hey, we got him now, a-hyuk, a-hyuk."
A certain level of intellectual maturity is required to see that such "hypotheticals" are a waste of time. And that's the last bit of time I have to waste on that foolishness.
The question I asked you was a serious one, and one that occasionally, albeit rarely, comes up in real life. It's one of those difficult cases that make people who truly are intellectually mature reflect on what they believe. If you are unable to answer it, just say so. Calling me puerile, immature, and foolish is just deflecting the issue.
I've just read this entire post. I am, to a point, against abortion. I believe that if a woman gets pregnant by consenting to sex, she should have to carry the baby and if she doesn't want it, there are plenty of want-to-be parents who would. If a woman is raped, it should be her choice. In this case, we are talking about a little girl. I have an 11-year-old daughter and I would make the same decision these parents made. She is a child, has to go to school, has to grow up. She cannot be a parent. Her body is not mature enough to carry a child. She would be ridiculed in school and what do you think would happen to her then? If you think her parents made the wrong decision, do you have a little girl? Have you ever been through a pregnancy? Would you really put a child through what a woman is meant to handle. I don't think God would've wanted this either. You talk about the medical problems an abortion vs delivery causes for women. Not a child.
You have no idea how long I have waited to see you get zotted!
You have no idea how many people have been waiting for this day. That troll should have been gone long ago. He/she/it cracked jokes and gloated over many murders. It was one of the original WPPFF that broadcast their drinking games during the murder of Terri Schiavo.
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I can't imagine the girl would be ex-communicated. I highly doubt she consented to it but rather was forced.
Safety of the mother.
At the very least, that is working on the very faulty assumption that abortions are safe.
In addition, there is the horrific conditions that exist in hospitals in Colombia.
Years ago I visited some friends in Bogota and was told that you avoid hospitals at all costs. They knew someone who died from complications due to a tonsillectomy of all things. He was still in the hospital and there was no doctor present to attend to him. He bled to death.
This one I'll partake in. :) Glad to zee itz been zotted.
Good grief.
If a pregnancy is found to be life threatening, it is either a tubal pregnancy, which is a in a class by itself, or is usually late enough in the pregnancy that the baby can be delivered early and put in NICU.
It doesn't have to be killed by abortion.
Only a man could think that.
Un-stinking-real.
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“Safety of the mother.”
What did that baby do that you are entitled to kill it? What is its crime?
Thanks for the ping!
Had a minor run in with him/her on the prayers thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2840348/posts?page=111#111
That was so perverted and repulsive that he/she had to be mentally ill and/or a sociopath. Good riddance.
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