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To: Suzy Quzy
Ollie is a great guy.

Agreed, as long as you don't EVER AGAIN put him in charge of an intelligence op. Sorry. You may like Ollie. I do too. But he was a class "A" F-up re Iran Contra. He didn't just screw the pooch; he wined it, dined it, and took it on a three day weekend to Vegas. The security of the whole thing was laughably poor. It's a miracle the Soviets failed to detect the operation long before the press did. Even the purely Contra side of the operation, were Ollie generally tends to get the most credit, was a mess. It took Elliot Abrams months to straighten it out and get the Contras to where they were a sizable, popular and effective force. And of course Ollie shat on the principle of civilian control by leaving Abrams out of the loop, and making him take the heat before Congress.

Hmmm. Maybe I don't like Ollie too much. Or I should say I don't trust him for playing against his own team like he did wrt to Abrams. And although I didn't have a problem with Ollie misleading Congress (a choice he didn't give Abrams) I DID most definitely have a problem with his removing documents from a secure location, then ALTERING and returning them. That's literally Orwellian, and I continue to think Ollie should have served time for that, or at least been indicted and tried with maybe something less than jail time.

Just MHO. Olliebots flame away.

116 posted on 08/30/2006 6:26:03 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: Stultis

Don't know enough to comment on that.


153 posted on 08/30/2006 7:04:43 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kabooms"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: Stultis

I can never look at old Ollie without remembering what Terry Reed wrote about him oh so long ago.


185 posted on 08/30/2006 8:21:51 PM PDT by The Westerner
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To: Stultis; Howlin
Rice Appoints Iran-Contra Figure Abrams to head NSC's Mideast Section

LOL, looks like Wilson tried to smear Elliott Abrams too:

...This causes problems. For example, when Wilson suggests that Elliott Abrams, the National Security Council official, may have leaked Plame's identity to the press, his only proof is that Abrams's name "has most often been repeated to me in connection with the inquiry and disclosure into my background and Valerie's." Not quite the level of proof sought by a grand jury.------- "The Rise and Decline of Joe Wilson ," Matthew Continetti, Weekly Standard, 05/17/2004, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1132997/posts

207 posted on 08/31/2006 12:13:48 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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