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NIST Refutes 9/11 Conspiracy Theories (National Institute of Standards and Technology)
EE Times ^ | 08/30/2006 | George Leopold

Posted on 08/30/2006 12:57:41 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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81 posted on 08/30/2006 2:26:43 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Ernesto has been downgraded to Ernie.)
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To: DBrow; BeHoldAPaleHorse; Dead Corpse; AnAmericanMother; Frank_Discussion
This is one of the main reasons I love Free Republic--on any topic you can find FReepers with technical knowledge and experience who can overwhelm trolls with facts and evidence. And I learn a lot by reading such posts.

Thank you, all, for your fine answers to the current troll's attempts to spread his paranoia. It may not have made any impression on him, conspiracy theorists being uncommonly impervious to reality, but at least you sent him whimpering back to his Gollum cave.

82 posted on 08/30/2006 2:26:52 PM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: american spirit
Neither.......just asking questions vs. lapping up without question what we're fed by the MSM and other assorted mouthpieces.

A very nice non-answer.

You have been repeatedly corrected when you have posted inaccurate statements, and gove on to repeat those statements over and over again. What am I supposed to make of that?

83 posted on 08/30/2006 2:27:47 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: nickcarraway

Bump for later


84 posted on 08/30/2006 2:28:31 PM PDT by Richard from IL
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To: american spirit
Oh, and while you're at it, please respond to this post that you dodged earlier:

Please summarize your architectural and/or civil engineering credentials, and give a detailed explanation of why it's suspicious. Said explanation should not refer to your own erroneous claims that have been corrected.

85 posted on 08/30/2006 2:29:35 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

After Khobar Towers and other assorted bombings involving American military and other personnel in the ME you actually believe that it would be hard to imagine that people actually hate us that much?.....are you serious? I also like the one about the NORAD excercise being a bonus......gimme a break!


86 posted on 08/30/2006 2:32:06 PM PDT by american spirit
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To: american spirit

What's more likely? That our government, which can't do much of anything right or prevent its secrets from leaked, orchestrated an elaborate illusion? Do you really think everyone involved (and it would have had to involve hundreds if not thousands) performed their jobs to perfection, and then has managed to keep their mouths shut?

Or is it more likely that a small group of terrorists used physical violence to comandeer aircraft and fly them into buildings?

Do you really believe the former is more likely? Or are you just so full of hatred for this country and/or the current government that you will accept such absurd scenarios as fact rather than accept what is patently obvious to anyone with two eyes and a brain?

I really don't understand your ilk. What you and your fever-swamp buddies on the web are propagating is damaging to this country, especially at a time when we need to unite against the threat of terrorism, and frankly it really pi##es me off.


87 posted on 08/30/2006 2:32:08 PM PDT by VegasCowboy ("...he wore his gun outside his pants, for all the honest world to feel.")
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To: Boiler Plate
Small stuff at first. Need to fill out my tool set first. Last peice I need right now is a biggie though... an anvil.

I'll need a couple of hardy tools (hot/cold cuts, nail header, monkey tool, ect..), swage block, some tongs in various sizes, fire tools.

These will not only be cheaper to build, but are excellent "beginners" projects as well. I was a jet engine mechanic in the Marine Corps and did some machining work after I got off active duty. I kinda miss working with steel in my current tech related engineering occupation.

At first, it'll probably be a few projects for around my home. Fireplace poker set, decorative iron work, easy stuff. I'll take it from there, but I'd like to get to a point where I was good enough to sell some of my work at fairs and flea markets.

88 posted on 08/30/2006 2:34:02 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Quam terribilis est haec hora)
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To: american spirit
Neither.......just asking questions vs. lapping up without question what we're fed by the MSM and other assorted mouthpieces.

So how do you explain bin Laden and al-Qa'ida?

I'm sure the guys at work will be fascinated by your answer. They'd be thrilled to know that there is no AQ, and we can all go home early.

89 posted on 08/30/2006 2:35:55 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (- Islam will never survive being laughed at. -)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Fire clear up to the top floor by the looks of that angle. I wish I could find that one photo, arial shot, from just beofre it collapsed. Showed an enormous amount of damage 2/3 of the way up the front of the building.

The only real wonder is that it stayed up as long as it did...

90 posted on 08/30/2006 2:36:01 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Quam terribilis est haec hora)
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To: american spirit
After Khobar Towers and other assorted bombings involving American military and other personnel in the ME you actually believe that it would be hard to imagine that people actually hate us that much?.....are you serious?

Yes, I'm serious. Did you predict that Islamists would use fully-fueled widebody jets as manned cruise missiles before 9/11/01? If not, then shut the f*** up.

I also like the one about the NORAD excercise being a bonus......gimme a break!

Do you have any idea how the military works, aside from reading Sergeant Rock comic books and watching B-grade movies?

91 posted on 08/30/2006 2:36:33 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: american spirit
Oh, and once again:

Please summarize your architectural and/or civil engineering credentials, and give a detailed explanation of why it's suspicious. Said explanation should not refer to your own erroneous claims that have been corrected.

92 posted on 08/30/2006 2:37:44 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: american spirit

So explain to us how it all went down. Were the planes flying into buildings an illusion? Give us a step-by-step analysis of what happened instead of just repeatedly asking questions. You obviously don't care enough about the truth to read the replies to your questions, so why waste our time?


93 posted on 08/30/2006 2:38:35 PM PDT by VegasCowboy ("...he wore his gun outside his pants, for all the honest world to feel.")
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To: American Quilter
How do I get a job that pays big bucks for writing lengthy studies on the obvious????

No, actually, the NIST study analyzed the actual blueprints and modeled the stresses expected from aircraft impacts and checkpointed them against the known data.

This provides detailed insights into the stresses resulting from an aircraft impact and the weak points in the design, allowing recommendations for future construction.

Any idiot can overdesign; the art is to make get the best value for our construction bucks by making future designs that can avoid pitfalls without busting the budget.

94 posted on 08/30/2006 2:39:53 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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To: Steel Wolf

No......things just don't happen.....you seem to be well versed here so what happened with regards to WTC'93 and the circumstances surrounding a fedgov plant within that group?


95 posted on 08/30/2006 2:40:16 PM PDT by american spirit
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To: american spirit

What was the velocity of the fall in ft/sec, so that we can compare it to other falling objects?

And you are not far off in suggesting that all of the weight bearing columns failed close together in time- that's the official version.


96 posted on 08/30/2006 2:41:41 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: nickcarraway

Anyone that thinks the US government would have staged an attack that killed thousands of Americans is a nut case.


97 posted on 08/30/2006 2:42:54 PM PDT by boughtwithaprice
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To: american spirit
Do they have a reasonable explanation for WTC7 coming down in less than 10 seconds without taking a direct hit from a plane or having any major fires?

Actually it didn't come down within 10 seconds of the collapse of the two main towers. Building number 7 was next to the two main towers, and it had fires raging inside the entire day and it collapsed late in the afternoon of 9/11.

98 posted on 08/30/2006 2:43:28 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: american spirit
The melting point of the steel is approx. 2700 degrees....how hot can diesel fuel burn?

Home heating oil burns at about the same temp as does Jet Fuel.

Here's what happens to structural steel when exposed to 12000 gallons of it burning under Interstate 95 in 2004.

Put a couple hundred thousand tons above it and what would be left of the bridge?

99 posted on 08/30/2006 2:43:48 PM PDT by Malsua
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
No, actually, the NIST study analyzed the actual blueprints and modeled the stresses expected from aircraft impacts and checkpointed them against the known data.

I'm sure they did, and I didn't mean to dismiss their work. I was just being sarcastic about people (like the conspiracy theorist on this thread) who, despite all the evidence (including that of their own eyes), need to have the obvious proven to them. Guess I could have made that point more clearly.

100 posted on 08/30/2006 2:43:58 PM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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