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To: brytlea
Uh, I can blame farmers for disobeying the law. And in disobeying the law they share some of the responsibility. Do you only obey laws you agree with? Do you recommend that to others?

Stop trying to shift the topic. We were talking about costs borne by the taxpayers -- and those costs are imposed on us by our elected representatives, or forced on us by the courts.

If you want to complain about the cost to taxpayers, then complain to those responsible for imposing those costs.

66 posted on 08/30/2006 12:42:39 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb

And of course, if people didn't hire illegal aliens in the first place, they wouldn't come here and burden the taxpayers.
And, btw, I'm done saying the same thing over and over to you. You clearly don't care to hear any side but your own.
susie


69 posted on 08/30/2006 12:46:53 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: r9etb
You nailed it. If they succeed in the double-whammy of blocking reform and keeping foreign farm workers out, the end result will just be the export of American businesses overseas to foreigners.
72 posted on 08/30/2006 12:50:42 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: r9etb; brytlea
Stop trying to shift the topic. We were talking about costs borne by the taxpayers -- and those costs are imposed on us by our elected representatives, or forced on us by the courts...If you want to complain about the cost to taxpayers, then complain to those responsible for imposing those costs.

That's on topic per the article. Voters are complaining to lawmakers, the border is being tightened, and Heinz Humann is complaining about the supply of illegal workers caused by enforcement of immigration laws.

Two other questions raised, which you don't seem to want to address.

Why should we tolerate a portion of the economy, a growing portion, which operates outside of labor, tax, and immigration laws? Sould we tolerate other criminal enterprises on the same basis?

The H2 visa program provides for legal migrant workers. Yes, at greater cost. If growers are now, fall of 2006, aware of a labor shortage, when fall of 2007 rolls around, why should I assume that any grower who hasn't availed himself of the opportunity to employ legal workers is motivated by anything but the prospect of ill gotten gains.

78 posted on 08/30/2006 1:00:19 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: r9etb

What about the lost taxes not paid by the illegals and farmers on payroll


100 posted on 08/30/2006 1:33:53 PM PDT by Tspud1
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