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To: r9etb; brytlea
Stop trying to shift the topic. We were talking about costs borne by the taxpayers -- and those costs are imposed on us by our elected representatives, or forced on us by the courts...If you want to complain about the cost to taxpayers, then complain to those responsible for imposing those costs.

That's on topic per the article. Voters are complaining to lawmakers, the border is being tightened, and Heinz Humann is complaining about the supply of illegal workers caused by enforcement of immigration laws.

Two other questions raised, which you don't seem to want to address.

Why should we tolerate a portion of the economy, a growing portion, which operates outside of labor, tax, and immigration laws? Sould we tolerate other criminal enterprises on the same basis?

The H2 visa program provides for legal migrant workers. Yes, at greater cost. If growers are now, fall of 2006, aware of a labor shortage, when fall of 2007 rolls around, why should I assume that any grower who hasn't availed himself of the opportunity to employ legal workers is motivated by anything but the prospect of ill gotten gains.

78 posted on 08/30/2006 1:00:19 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: SJackson

Thank you.
susie


81 posted on 08/30/2006 1:04:19 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: SJackson
Why should we tolerate a portion of the economy, a growing portion, which operates outside of labor, tax, and immigration laws? Sould we tolerate other criminal enterprises on the same basis?

I never said we should. I was simply pointing out the economic constraints under which the growers operate. The real issue is the cost of legal workers, which is too high for some of these growers to bear.

It's not a phenomenon isolated to agriculture: those "Made in China" labels at Wal-Mart are part of the same issue.

The H2 visa program provides for legal migrant workers. Yes, at greater cost.

Sure. But he guy in this article is saying that "at greater cost" is simply more than he can bear. The prices he gets for his fruit aren't high enough to support the additional cost .... so he'll probably go out of business.

88 posted on 08/30/2006 1:12:48 PM PDT by r9etb
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