Posted on 08/30/2006 11:11:16 AM PDT by okstate
TRENTON, N.J. - The U.S. Senate race between Republican Tom Kean Jr. and Democrat Robert Menendez is virtually deadlocked, but if voters weren't so concerned about the war in Iraq, Kean could hold a clear lead, according to a poll released Wednesday.
A portion of Fairleigh Dickinson University's PublicMind Poll designed to test the impact of national issues on the race indicated that if the war were not a factor, Kean could be leading Menendez by 47-36 percent. As it stands, however, 43 percent of voters polled said they favor Kean to 39 percent for Menendez, a difference that matches the poll's sampling error margin and makes the race a virtual tie.
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Very funny, I like the "I feel your pain" Clinton reference.
But "Big Government Conservatism" is an oxymoron. Like "Jumbo Shrimp". Bush has set back the conservative movement 28 years.
Why do you think Dick Armey and Phil Gramm resigned/decided not to run for another term. They were fed up trying to bash their heads into a brick wall.
The idea that Big Government is OK as long as Republicans are in charge is nauseating.
Socialism and Communism have already been tried. It's a failed ideology. When our leaders are more interested in re-election than their core principles, they're prone to give into the mentality of voters who want Gubmint to give them something.
you had me fooled for a while, but now I know your a dem troll. ha ha good one.
Republicans don't like answering polls. Either they don't like the media outfit running the poll, or they don't have the time, or they just don't think it's some stranger's business.
In my very humble opinion, add 2-4% to every Republican's polled number.
I've donated thousands of dollars to Republican candidates and the national RNC and the NJ RNC. I've donated hours of my time on the phone banks working for local Republican freeholders and Joe Sinagra.
I don't need to prove anything to you. And if you ever call me a dem again...I'll accuse you of being a member of al Qaeda or the Taliban. WAYR.
All I know is the dems love guys like you. Even the MSM has been trying to turn conservatives off with Foley, etc. etc. I subscribe to an old saying "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". And you are no friend of mine.
I hear what you're saying. If you have a candidate who is 30%, 40%, 50%, 60% Conservative, Republican vote for him/her because they are a better alternative than the 199% Socialist candidate. You can make a case for that, as you have.
Everyone has their limits. You make it sound as though I'm the only person on FR who has ever lamented the fact that a candidate subrogated their core conservative beliefs in order to stay in office. On the contrary, if you had a dollar for every time the term RINO was used on this forum, you would have more money than Arnold or Michael Bloomberg to run a campaign espousing your views.
EVEN YOU HAVE YOUR LIMITS. At what point does a candidate become too liberal for you to vote for? Yours seems to be about 40%. Mine is at 50%+.
I'll give you the reductio ad absurdum argument just to find out where you stand. If you go down the Republican Party platform and take a litmus test, where do you draw the line?
If a candidate is:
pro-choice
pro gun control
favors socialized national healthcare
is weak on war on terror
supports amnesty for illegal immigrants and is open borders
favors federal funding for embryonic stem cell research
supports gay marriage
is a chronic proponent of tax increases
never met a social welfare program he didn't like
BUT...BUT...he calls himself a Republican. Would you vote for him because you are a team player?
If Michael Bloomberg, a lifelong MA liberal dem was the only option as a Republican candidate, would you support him. If John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, or Ted Kennedy had an R next to their name, would you support them?
Where do you draw the line? That's what I'm asking. Answer the question directly without resorting to name calling.
Leave that to me: you're a poopy face. So there. :-)
We're on the same side. We all are or why would we be here?
I don't want San Fran liberal values Pelosi to be chairman/woman of the Tupperware/Amway/Avon Peddlers of America much less Speaker of the House. If she were speaker of my house I would be out of there like a bat out of hell, heading straight for divorce court.
But that doesn't mean that I would vote for Saddam Hussein (R) from Tikrit, in order to achieve that goal.
Well you will achieve that goal.
No, polls show overwhelmingly that people don't want government interfering in their lives. We are right. Limited government conservatives are right. Stick to our guns.
Now, if you want to argue that what people say and what they actually do are two different things, then you have a case.
65% of Americans say they want healthy menu options at restaurants. Yet when TGIF, Mickey D's, or IHOP tried it, they found that nobody actually ordered the celery and tofu. So the free market went back to the four major food groups: grease, sludge, chocolate and trans fat.
People talk the talk, the question is can they walk the walk. You and I can. Somewhere out there.....The drug addicted welfare mother of 4 might think differently than us.
What was the question again? I forgot.
Alright, then we can agree. From now on I'll pay closer attention to the primaries. I'll make it abundantly clear that I will not donate my time or money to a RINO candidate, but I will take 5 minutes of my time on election day to pull the lever for him.
Like I'll no doubt do for Kean on Tuesday. Who am I kidding? If you ever took a course or a seminar on how to deal with irate people, the first thing you do is shut up and listen. Second, you acknowledge what they said...you don't have to agree with it or say you do...just acknowledge that they said it and you heard them.
That's what I did on Kean's blog. Now I feel a lot better that at least I got it off my chest.
As long as he heard me and got my point, I can go and vote for him even though I disagree with some things.
(I contacted his campaign people and told them that I can't help them and I'm working on Sinagra's no doubt unsuccessful campaign to unseat Rush Holt in the 12th district.)
BTTT
What's the deal with all of the "undecided"s? BS poll.
I think Zog's been oversampling pubbies, relative to the rest.
In NJ, the LS Rule does not apply: a 3-4 point Kean lead is a tie. Still, I think he'll win it.
good for you, in the final analysis, if Menendez and his policies plus possible dem control of the senate (or house) outweighs Kean being in office, then you should not vote. As bad as Kean is, the alternatives are worse. Luckily I have Mike Steele who is kinda conservative, my choice is easy.
I've heard the same RINO complaints about Steele. Ironically, if you go to www.tomkean.com and look at his stance on issues, he's actually 75% conservative. Low taxes, against amnesty for illegals, strong on the War on Terror.
He is distancing himself from the party for political reasons...the consensus among fellow Republican campaign volunteers is that this is a mistake that he'll pay dearly for. He could have won this thing easily if he played his cards right. Midterm elections are about mobilizing your base and not trying to woo the undecideds.
You may as well take that last step and become a member of the Democratic Party since you are voting for them to take over the Senate.
I don't really like what McGavick has been saying about President Bush, but I still voted for him.
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