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Pelosi Statement on Rumsfeld Remarks [a fresh embarrassment to the nation.....]
House Democratic Leader ^

Posted on 08/30/2006 10:06:30 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

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To: Sub-Driver

The horrors of Abu Gharib? My word, I did tougher things in fraternity activities.

How about the horrors of Saddam Hussein? Would Mrs. Pelosi like to put him back in power?


21 posted on 08/30/2006 10:17:29 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: RexBeach

Probably.


22 posted on 08/30/2006 10:17:55 AM PDT by RedCell ("...thou shalt kill thine enemy before he killeth you by any means available" - Dick Marcinko)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
If we were fighting in Iraq like we fought WWII in Europe, we would dispatch a million men with tanks and field artillery, bomb their cities into flaming rubble and kill enemy combatants without regard to the presence of the civilian population. Is that what the estimable Ms. Pelosi wants?

Or does she just want to abuse whatever ocassion is at hand in order to score cheap political points purchased with even cheaper rhetoric?

23 posted on 08/30/2006 10:19:45 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: Sub-Driver; SittinYonder

Something is wrong with their analogy.

Let's compare the Iraq War with how long the rest of Europe was involved in WWII, as opposed to just America. Started in 1939, Germany surrendered in 1945, I get 6 years, right? OK then, the Iraq War began in 2003, it's now 2006, so about 3.5 years.

Hmmm, why wouldn't they use that comparison? It fits more with the Iraq War. WWII in Europe was being fought long before we became involved.


24 posted on 08/30/2006 10:19:51 AM PDT by eyespysomething
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To: Sub-Driver
Dear God... save us from this harpy...
25 posted on 08/30/2006 10:20:39 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: Philistone

Not to mention that last time I checked we were STILL IN Germany. Pelosi should call back in 51 years.


26 posted on 08/30/2006 10:20:54 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: Sub-Driver
If Mr. Rumsfeld is so concerned with comparisons to World War II, he should explain why our troops have now been fighting in Iraq longer than it took our forces to defeat the Nazis in Europe.

Gee, Pelosi, it could have something to do with the fact that Roosevelt didn't have to contend with the likes of you undermining his war effort. And our enemies in Iraq are COUNTING on the likes of you to give them the political victory they cannot win on the battlefield, just like Vietnam.

So if you want to see why this war is taking so long, go take a good, long gaze in the mirror at your Botox-saturated mug.

27 posted on 08/30/2006 10:21:25 AM PDT by dirtboy (This tagline has been photoshopped)
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To: Sub-Driver
If Mr. Rumsfeld is so concerned with comparisons to World War II, he should explain why our troops have now been fighting in Iraq longer than it took our forces to defeat the Nazis in Europe.

The US was not the first nation to engage the Nazis in battle. In fact Communists in the United States urged "peace" in dealing with Nazi Germany (that is, until Hitler double crossed Unca Joe Stalin).

Note too how she shifted the traditional talking point of how long it took to win WWII. We ended WWII with nuclear weapons but they are "off the table" today.

Why did we go to war against Germany when it was Japan that bombed Pearl Harbor? < /sarc >

28 posted on 08/30/2006 10:22:33 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: showme_the_Glory

Pelosi=surrender monkey


29 posted on 08/30/2006 10:23:21 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: Sub-Driver
Simply incredible. Which one of these statements of Secretary Rumsfeld is she referring to:

-- Our nation is so fortunate to have the American Legion standing up for all those who are serving our country in this time of testing.

-- The Department of Defense is proud to be a partner with you in the "Heroes to Hometowns" program, which is helping severely wounded veterans with job searches, their homes, and other activities to aid the transition to civilian life. Your partnership with the "The America Supports You" campaign helps communities, organizations, and individuals across this nation express their appreciation to our troops, and to their families.

-- I commend the American Legion for its sponsorship of the Boy Scouts. I know there are some places where Boy Scouts are a subject of scorn.

-- Today, another enemy -- a different kind of enemy -- has also made clear its intentions -- in places like New York, Washington, D.C., Bali, London, Madrid, and Moscow. But it is apparent that many have still not learned history's lessons.

--We hear everyday of new plans, new efforts, to murder Americans and other free people. Indeed, the plot recently discovered that would have killed hundreds -- possibly thousands -- of innocent men, women, and children on planes coming from Britain to the United States should have demonstrated to all that the enemy is serious, lethal, and relentless.

But this is still -- in 2006 -- not well recognized or fully understood. It seems that in some quarters there is more of a focus on dividing our country, than acting with unity against the gathering threats.

-- The struggle we are in is too important -- the consequences too severe -- to have the luxury of returning to the old mentality of "Blame America First."

-- I believe the question is not whether we can win. It is whether we have the will to persevere.

-- I believe the question is not whether we can win. It is whether we have the will to persevere.

Or, maybe, it was just this:

-- May God bless each of you. May God bless the men and women in uniform and their families. And may God continue to bless our wonderful country.

Lando

30 posted on 08/30/2006 10:23:33 AM PDT by Lando Lincoln (For what cause would a liberal go to war? Revolutions don't count.)
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To: Sub-Driver

"The policies that led to the horrors at Abu Ghraib were developed on Mr. Rumsfeld's watch."

What horrors? People getting kidnapped, forced to convert their religion at gunpoint, decapitated? Hands lopped off? Rape rooms? Disembowling of prisoners' wives before their eyes? Suicide bombers boarding a bus?

Oh. Korans in toilets and panties on heads.


31 posted on 08/30/2006 10:24:52 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: eyespysomething

Let's compare the body count of military and civilian deaths.

She'd be surrendering after one big battle.


32 posted on 08/30/2006 10:26:55 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: showme_the_Glory

"Treason is as treason does."


33 posted on 08/30/2006 10:29:01 AM PDT by talleyman (Kerry & the Surrender-Donkey Treasoncrats - trashing the troops for 40 years.)
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To: RexBeach
CNN kept quiet about torture and abuse under Saddam to maintain their Baghdad bureau.

The media is decidedly anti-American and pro-dictator. They side with evil overwhelmingly.
34 posted on 08/30/2006 10:30:28 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: pissant

I second that.


35 posted on 08/30/2006 10:31:35 AM PDT by unkus
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To: weegee

This is like when they tried the Culture of Corruption against the republicans, and realized, oops, us too! They want to up-end the R's by 'using their words against them', but don't realize until after they've thrown the poop in that the fan is set on oscillate and covers everything, and they end up stinking worse.

They really are stupid. The only horror this story makes me think of is if she becomes Speaker of the House.


36 posted on 08/30/2006 10:33:15 AM PDT by eyespysomething
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To: Sub-Driver
Here's the speech. Pelosi (and Reid) must be feeling guilty, or they wouldn't react so strongly to a speach which does not mention them or the Democratic party by name.

Here's a quote. " The question is not whether we can win; it's whether we have the will to persevere to win. I'm convinced that Americans do have that determination and that we have learned the lessons of history, of the folly of trying to turn a blind eye to danger."
37 posted on 08/30/2006 10:33:55 AM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: theDentist
Nancy's just afraid we'll discover they "tortured" prisoners using her panties.

Please, said Osama, shoot me instead.

38 posted on 08/30/2006 10:34:12 AM PDT by Boston Blackie
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To: theDentist

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, what a revolting mental image that is, t.


39 posted on 08/30/2006 10:34:18 AM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage. Try it!)
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To: dubie

Too scary for words, d.


40 posted on 08/30/2006 10:35:14 AM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage. Try it!)
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