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California's Forced Conversions (The Left And New CAGOP Want Californians To Bow Before Baal Alert)
Worldnetdaily.com ^ | 08/30/06 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 08/30/2006 8:25:05 AM PDT by goldstategop

While much of the world was watching the forced conversions of two kidnapped Fox News journalists in the Gaza Strip, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger took a huge step toward forcing millions of Californians to convert.

It's not Islam that Schwarzenegger and the state are forcibly pushing through all schools that accept any public form of financial aid for students. It's paganism. It's the worship of Baal. It's a primitive form of religion that is making a comeback. It's a faith that says sacrifice your sons and daughters on this altar – or else.

In case you missed the stunning news, Schwarzenegger has signed a new law that effectively tosses out all sexual moral conduct codes at colleges, private and Christian schools, daycare centers and other so-called educational facilities across the state.

The law requires all businesses and groups receiving any form of state funding – even if it's a grant for one student – to condone homosexuality, bisexuality, transsexuality and God knows what else.

There are no exceptions – not for other religious beliefs, not for personal moral convictions, not for health reasons, not even for the possession of something increasingly rare in the Golden State, common sense.

Here's more evidence that Republican officeholders are the key to advancing social justice and progress. This is something not even former Gov. Gray Davis could have pulled off.

I don't want to overstate this, but this is the end of religious freedom in the biggest state in the union.

The only alternative left for Christians and Jews and people of other faiths in California is quite literally to drop out. That means homeschooling. It means creating new institutions that won't touch any public funding – even when it is as tenuous as one student accepting a state grant. When you submit yourself or your institution to government regulation in California now, you tacitly accept the official state religion of paganism.

And don't think it will end here. It never does.

When more people choose to drop out, as they inevitably will, the coercive state will find new creative ways to come after them as well.

I saw this coming 15 years ago when I chose to leave California for good. It's over. It really is the late, great state of California.

Remember how it all started.

It started with acceptance of the seemingly benign, libertarian notion that "what I do in the privacy of my own bedroom is none of the government's business." Now, of course, it's everyone's business.

By going to virtually any educational institution in California today you are swearing allegiance to the idea that homosexuality, bisexuality, transsexuality and a growing list of other sexual sins and pathologies are just as good, just as normal, just as acceptable, just as healthy as heterosexuality.

Even worse, you are converting to this religious view. You are rejecting your old religious code – if you had one. You are accepting what might be called "the mark of the Terminator."

What's next?

It's unlikely the people who believe in forced conversions will stop after this victory.

They have been trying to force their way into every facet of life in California and across the nation. They want to regulate homeschooling. They want to approve curricula. They want to ensure that no child escapes their efforts at indoctrination and brainwashing.

These are the same people who consider the Boy Scouts of America one of the most subversive organizations in America because of their commitment to the simple non-sectarian principle of monotheism. If you believe in one true God who rules the universe and has established a standard of behavior for all men, these zealots are coming after you.

The war is not over until everyone bows before Baal.


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California's new state religion is paganism. Brought to you by the state's Left and new CAGOP. Its more than just about blessing the Gay Agenda. Its about eliminating religion alogether. Its about forcing Californians to disavow monotheism and traditional values. And it won't stop with the Mark Of The Terminator and the late late State Of California. No - the post modern zealots are coming after all of us in America.

Until we bow down before Baal instead of God.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

1 posted on 08/30/2006 8:25:07 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

Is it possible for the rest of the US to vote California OUT of the Union?

Come on... even just a symbolic vote?


2 posted on 08/30/2006 8:27:12 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: goldstategop

This article seems overly-hysterical to me. I'd like to read what the bill actually says. I doubt it's banning religion or forcing paganism which would be easily over-turned in the courts on a First Amendment challenge. There may be some things that are really bad in this bill and I'd like to know what the truth of it is. But the tone of the article to me is a red flag that this isn't the source to give a clear-eyed view of what the bill is really all about.


3 posted on 08/30/2006 8:30:15 AM PDT by MikeA (Not voting out of anger in November is a vote for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House)
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To: taxcontrol

No, but it is possible for the red region of CA to breakway and form their own state.


4 posted on 08/30/2006 8:31:15 AM PDT by Fee (`+Great powers never let minor allies dictate who, where and when they must fight.)
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To: taxcontrol

I wouldn't put too much stock in this article. I can't honestly say I know what this bill does or says and I'd like to find out, but I really doubt it has anything to do with banning Christianity or forcing paganism. The World Net Daily doesn't have the best track record for getting it right and the hysterical tone of the article should be a giant red flag.


5 posted on 08/30/2006 8:31:51 AM PDT by MikeA (Not voting out of anger in November is a vote for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House)
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"This article seems overly-hysterical to me."

Of course it does. It's written by Farah, and published in WhirledNutsDaily.

The bill is yet another attempt to try to prevent all sorts of discriminatory activity in schools and other publically funded organizations. It's way inclusive, and included sexual orientation in the list of things you can't discriminate against.

I suspect that nobody's going to be forced to adopt any of those activities at school, though, nor to change their religious beliefs. In fact, I'm sure of it.

Farah does a good job of sensationalizing here.


6 posted on 08/30/2006 8:33:49 AM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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To: MikeA
You people are really lost in denial. When they finally forbid you from praying to Jesus, them it will be too late. I pity you. The writing is on the wall and I'm getting out of a state that will not allow me to practice my faith openly.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

7 posted on 08/30/2006 8:33:49 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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A niece and nephew of mine attend a private Christian school in CA. I don't think the school receives any grants, but I'm going to call my sister and find out.

I hope religious people in CA vote with their feet, and leave. I left many years ago. My sister and her husband (a deputy sheriff) will be leaving on the day he's eligible to retire (about 5 years from now).

8 posted on 08/30/2006 8:34:22 AM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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If you think the gay lifestyle is perfectly normal, then of course you see nothing wrong with what just happened in California. This is exactly where we part company.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

9 posted on 08/30/2006 8:35:28 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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"The writing is on the wall and I'm getting out of a state that will not allow me to practice my faith openly.
"

Good idea. I hear that the next step is to close down all churches in California and make owning a Bible a capital offense. They'll close all the schools run by churches, too, and imprison every pastor. I'm sure there's a bill already in the works to do all that.

Move out of California. That's a good idea for lots of reasons. I did it a couple of years ago.


10 posted on 08/30/2006 8:36:01 AM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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No, it says that if an institution or any of its students accept state aid, they will have to accommodate the new sexual mores of the state of California. So, for instance, if a Lutheran high school had a student who was using any kind of state aid to go to school, then they could not teach that homosexuality is a sin.

The trick is, and the danger is, is what is considered "state aid".
11 posted on 08/30/2006 8:37:16 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: goldstategop

"If you think the gay lifestyle is perfectly normal, then of course you see nothing wrong with what just happened in California"

Normal? No at all. I do recognize, though, that some people are homosexuals. There it is. What am I supposed to do about that? As long as they break no laws, I don't interfere with their lives. I have other things to do.


12 posted on 08/30/2006 8:37:41 AM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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To: goldstategop

"If you think the gay lifestyle is perfectly normal, then of course you see nothing wrong with what just happened in California"

Normal? No at all. I do recognize, though, that some people are homosexuals. There it is. What am I supposed to do about that? As long as they break no laws, I don't interfere with their lives. I have other things to do.


13 posted on 08/30/2006 8:37:42 AM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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To: goldstategop

Good gosh, take a pill. You REALLY believe any attempt to ban religious worship could withstand a court challenge? Come on. Stop living in a world of paranoid delusion where everyone is out to take your Bible. Yes I understand the hostility in the liberal world to Christianity. I'm a practicing Christian myself. But I really don't see any serious person proposing or trying to force a ban on worship and if they did they'd be given the smack down so fast and hard it would make their dog bleed.

Look, when the day comes anyone tries to ban my faith I'll join you in the hills with a rifle. But this isn't really happening. Come on.


14 posted on 08/30/2006 8:37:45 AM PDT by MikeA (Not voting out of anger in November is a vote for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House)
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To: redgolum

Thank you for providing some light to the heat of this article. I would obviously disagree with such a move. This is another nail in the coffin of my not voting for Arnold in the Fall.


15 posted on 08/30/2006 8:38:50 AM PDT by MikeA (Not voting out of anger in November is a vote for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House)
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To: goldstategop

It used to be called "the love that dare not speak its name." Now it's "the love that won't shut up."


16 posted on 08/30/2006 8:39:02 AM PDT by szweig
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To: MikeA
There's nothing hysterical about the law that was just signed by our Governor. It forbids people from having a negative view of homosexuality or other pagan perversions and enlists the state's coercive powers on the side of the adversaries of traditional values to make sure those of us who believe in them are ostracized from public life. It couldn't be any clearer - except for those who think its just about Gay Rights. That's giving the Left way too much credit. If that's all they wanted, they wouldn't have excluded a religious conscience clause from the new law here.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

17 posted on 08/30/2006 8:39:33 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: MikeA
I'd like to find out, but I really doubt it has anything to do with banning Christianity or forcing paganism.

You clearly have not been in a California public school, in the last 12 years or so.
18 posted on 08/30/2006 8:40:59 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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Yes, it can stand such a challenge. What do you think the courts have doing for the last four decades? The Left is not just content to remove religion from the public square. It wants to extinguish religion altogether.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

19 posted on 08/30/2006 8:41:27 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: szweig
Now it's "the love that won't shut up."

Except on the Day of Silence
20 posted on 08/30/2006 8:43:04 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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