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Teachers urged to tolerate swearing
Daily Press (Victorville CA) ^ | Sunday, August 27, 2006 | By HILLARY BORRUD / Staff Writer

Posted on 08/30/2006 7:28:53 AM PDT by zlala

VICTORVILLE —Victor Valley Union High School District teachers have been coached on a new approach to disciplining students.

At issue is whether teachers need to adjust how they interact with and discipline students who misbehave, particularly students from difficult backgrounds.

Culberson, director of youth services for the San Bernardino City Unified School District, said at a back-to-school inservice meeting that students today have less respect for authority than they did when many teachers were in school and consequently, some teachers have unrealistic expectations of their students.

The district superintendent, Julian Weaver, said Culberson’s message does not represent a change in district disciplinary policy, but...teachers need to learn to interpret their students’ body language. When a student is visibly agitated, the teacher might not want to push any buttons by asking if he or she brought in homework that day.

“We need to see ourselves as teachers and adults in the classroom,” Weaver said, “but we shouldn’t see ourselves as dictators, where students see themselves as far less than the teacher.”

Teachers should never take anything a student says personally, Culberson said. He referred to a teacher’s personal “f-— you” meter, meaning the number of times a teenager swears at them before they would discipline the student. If teachers have a low tolerance for bad behavior and frequently send a student out of the classroom, the students will drive them crazy whereas teachers with a high tolerance will be able to calmly follow school procedure and still discipline the student, Culberson said in an interview. State law prohibits vulgarity and swearing in the classroom and allows discipline ranging from suspension to being expelled, no matter what background a student comes from.

“Everything that I do is designed for the mental health of the teacher,” Culberson said.

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KEYWORDS: appeasement; breakdownofculture; california; ebonics; education; educators; publicschools; snakesinaschool
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I don't know Ray Culberson, but I do remember well Julian Weaver when he was an assistant principle at my high school in Victorville, back in the 70's. Very few people (including students) thought highly of him. But he does have his supporters. I see not much has changed in his philosophy of "turn your head & look the other way."

Luckily there are now letters to the editor in the Daily Press speaking out against this enlightened "new professionalism." If we think publik skools are bad now...with this type of allowance, no family that has standards & expectations will be able to send their children there.

And to think we are all paying for this crap.

1 posted on 08/30/2006 7:28:55 AM PDT by zlala
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To: zlala
It's not swearing, it is ebonics. You just have to be more tolerant. /s
2 posted on 08/30/2006 7:30:03 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Got towel?)
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To: zlala
Culberson, director of youth services for the San Bernardino City Unified School District, said at a back-to-school inservice meeting that students today have less respect for authority than they did when many teachers were in school . . .

The squishier the authority, the less respect they’ll get.

3 posted on 08/30/2006 7:32:24 AM PDT by dighton
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To: WakeUpAndVote

OH! That's right...shame one me. Call out the ACLU - defenders of the righteous & just. /s


4 posted on 08/30/2006 7:32:30 AM PDT by zlala ("History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." -Dwight D. Eisenhower)
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To: zlala
"If muthaf***in' 2X2 + 4X -30 = 0, solve for muthaf***in' x!"
6 posted on 08/30/2006 7:32:57 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: zlala; Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; ...
F*** that!

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me.

7 posted on 08/30/2006 7:35:08 AM PDT by mhking (I make my livin' on the evening news....)
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To: zlala

If we were in the business of raising serial killers and rapist I'd say give this man a raise and a raccoon fur hat! But as it is he should be arrested.


8 posted on 08/30/2006 7:35:14 AM PDT by Jaysun (I have the body of an eighteen year old. I keep it in the fridge.)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

Yep. You summed it up perfectly.


9 posted on 08/30/2006 7:36:21 AM PDT by L98Fiero (Evil is an exact science)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

Don't offend my pet animal with your correlation. She is trained, obedient, and faithful. Instead of you using the word 'animal', may I sugeest - The juice on the bottom of a garbage can.


10 posted on 08/30/2006 7:37:59 AM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: zlala
...teachers need to learn to interpret their students’ body language. When a student is visibly agitated, the teacher might not want to push any buttons by asking if he or she

...brought in homework that day.
...finished the test.
...had an written excuse for being absent yesterday.
...would please sit down and be quiet.
...would stop interrupting class.
...would put away the knife.
(et cetera)

(I thank God every day we can homeschool.)

11 posted on 08/30/2006 7:38:08 AM PDT by shezza (God bless our military heroes)
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To: zlala

Their answer to this and any problem is to apply the same liberalism and "tolerance" which has destroyed the school system.


12 posted on 08/30/2006 7:38:30 AM PDT by BadAndy ("Loud mouth internet Rambo")
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To: zlala
Culberson, director of youth services for the San Bernardino City Unified School District, said at a back-to-school inservice meeting that students today have less respect for authority than they did when many teachers were in school...

Is this a joke???

This guy must have gone to some expensive private school.

13 posted on 08/30/2006 7:40:05 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: zlala

It's going to turn into DU, but you will be able to hear it instead of just reading it.


14 posted on 08/30/2006 7:40:20 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: zlala

If you don't expect better of them, you won't get it.


15 posted on 08/30/2006 7:41:32 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: zlala
Defining deviancy down.
16 posted on 08/30/2006 7:42:56 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: zlala
"Culberson, director of youth services for the San Bernardino City Unified School District, said at a back-to-school inservice meeting that students today have less respect for authority than they did when many teachers were in school and consequently, some teachers have unrealistic expectations of their students."

Nothing like preparing the little darlings for the adult working world. Little Johnnie will be up on the roof with a rifle the first time he doesn't get his way at his first job or reaps the consequences of dropping the F-bomb when talking to his boss in a personnel meeting.
17 posted on 08/30/2006 7:43:03 AM PDT by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: WakeUpAndVote
It's not swearing, it is ebonics. You just have to be more tolerant.

Yo, yo, yo, dat not be dissin you, dat be da slang dat de kids be slingin now. Weuns jus needs ta get long.

18 posted on 08/30/2006 7:43:15 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: zlala

Both men should be fired immediately.


19 posted on 08/30/2006 7:43:30 AM PDT by quadrant
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To: martin_fierro; Tijeras_Slim; Toby06
"If muthaf***in' 2X2 + 4X -30 = 0, solve for muthaf***in' x!"

lmao

20 posted on 08/30/2006 7:43:37 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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