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700-year-old letters going home to Poland
Pioneer Press ^ | Aug. 27, 2006 | DINESH RAMDE

Posted on 08/29/2006 10:24:54 AM PDT by Lukasz

A collection of letters written by popes and kings some 700 years ago will be returned to Poland's national archives after a man in Milwaukee found them among the belongings of his father, a World War II veteran.

The letters, some of which were displayed at a news conference Thursday, are remarkably preserved, the gracefully flowing letters still legible on the vellum, or animal skin, on which they were written.

The 17 letters date back as far as 1256 and primarily record real-estate transactions, said Wanda Zemler-Cizewski, the Marquette University theology professor who authenticated them in 2003.

The documents were recovered during World War II by George G. Gavin, a Milwaukee native serving in the 347th Corps of Engineers in Company C, according to Ewa Barczyk, director of libraries at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee.

"He found them in the mud near a burned-out train in Austria," she said. "He cleaned them off with water from his canteen and apparently brought them back as a souvenir."

When Gavin died in 1998, his son, Philip Gavin, came across the letters. Philip decided the letters belonged in their country of origin.

There seems to be little doubt that the letters are authentic. For one thing, there's no money to be made in fake documents as boring as land deeds, Zemler-Cizewski said.

"There's nothing 'Dan Brown' about this," she said, referring to the author of the conspiracy-laden "The Da Vinci Code." The style of writing, the vellum, the seals and the people and places referenced all confirm the letters are from around the 13th century, she said.

Barczyk and her husband, UW-Milwaukee history professor Neal Pease, plan to hand-deliver the letters to archives officials Wednesday in Poland.

The letters trace back to Wroclaw, a rural city in western Poland about 200 miles southwest of Warsaw.

One letter was written by Pope Alexander IV to a religious order in the region. Another was from Pope Gregory (it's not clear which one) to local abbots.

The vellum backing gave the letters a tensile strength that apparently kept them well-preserved for so long.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; letters; poland; pope; wroclaw
Wroclaw at that time was part of Silesian duty, ruled by branch of Polish Piast dynasty. Later city was Germanized and became part of Poland after WWII.


1 posted on 08/29/2006 10:24:55 AM PDT by Lukasz
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2 posted on 08/29/2006 10:26:25 AM PDT by Lukasz
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To: Lukasz
The letters trace back to Wroclaw, a rural city

I understand they were written by an illiterate scribe.

3 posted on 08/29/2006 10:27:35 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Lukasz

Wow, to actually hold something of that historical nature. A very noble act by Philip Gavin.


4 posted on 08/29/2006 10:29:39 AM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: Lukasz
Wroclaw at that time was part of Silesian duty, ruled by branch of Polish Piast dynasty.

Somebody ought to tell that to Frau Steinbach.

5 posted on 08/29/2006 10:32:21 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Last Dakotan; Incorrigible

Milwaukee ping


6 posted on 08/29/2006 10:32:28 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: wideawake
The letters trace back to Wroclaw, a rural city

I understand they were written by an illiterate scribe.

LOL... Well said.

7 posted on 08/29/2006 10:34:44 AM PDT by RJL
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To: Lukasz

I'm glad "Wroclaw" is in the keywords list. I hate it when I spend hours searching for a good Wroclaw article.


8 posted on 08/29/2006 10:37:02 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: dfwgator
Somebody ought to tell that to Frau Steinbach.

Frau Steinbach?

9 posted on 08/29/2006 10:47:16 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (The California Republican Party needs Arnold the way a starving man needs a tapeworm.)
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To: DTogo
Wow, to actually hold something of that historical nature. A very noble act by Philip Gavin.

Yeah, some others could demand fortune.

10 posted on 08/29/2006 10:48:18 AM PDT by Lukasz
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To: Lukasz

Are there any pics of the letters?


11 posted on 08/29/2006 10:49:55 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Lukasz

700-year-old letters going home to Poland

Are any of them vowels?

[Slapping wrist] "Bad, bad poster!"

12 posted on 08/29/2006 10:50:03 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Freedom isn't free, but the men and women of the military will pay most of your share)
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To: Lukasz

There's a chapter or so on the raiding of Polish museums and galleries
by Himmler and Co. in "The Master Plan" by Heather Pringle.


13 posted on 08/29/2006 10:54:03 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Lukasz

That's what I was thinking - auction them at Sotheby's, or on e-bay, etc.


14 posted on 08/29/2006 10:59:21 AM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: Lukasz

Please tell me I'm not the only FReeper to think of post office jokes...


15 posted on 08/29/2006 11:02:11 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Pluto's been marginalized! Call the ACLU!)
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I was just thinking of posting one. ;-)


16 posted on 08/29/2006 11:06:26 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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Just adding this to the GGG catalog, not sending a general distribution.

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17 posted on 08/30/2006 10:59:14 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Lukasz

Good news bump.


18 posted on 08/30/2006 7:49:52 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Leaning on the everlasting arms.)
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To: mysterio
HERE
19 posted on 08/31/2006 11:37:26 PM PDT by Kozik
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To: Kozik

Thanks.


20 posted on 09/01/2006 7:28:01 AM PDT by mysterio
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